MTI Ram Air Kit
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MTI Ram Air Kit
Hey Guys,
I am trying to decide between the MTI Ram Air kit and the Breathless Vortex kit. This is a toss up. Here's why.
The MTI kit looks like a true ram system that takes in cold air from a scoop fixed down on the front spoiler. But the K&N is not setting on the ground like the Halltech TRIC system. It appears that the scoop (misp? I can't spell) would funnel cold air directly into the filter box quite well. The Vortex sits on top of the radiator schroud with a small hole cut into it.
Now, on the dyno the car is not moving. It is fixed and is simply sucking air through the mechanism. The Vortex seems to have a smaller filter and would suck in more air at a stand still. But at moving speeds it would seem that the MTI would pull in more air and push it by force through the filter by brute force. No, it is not the same ram air type running straight into the throttle body as did the old WS6 and Camaro LT1 SS setups. But, this product does seem to offer more potential.
What is the quality of this piece? Any feedback here?
Best Regards,
John
I am trying to decide between the MTI Ram Air kit and the Breathless Vortex kit. This is a toss up. Here's why.
The MTI kit looks like a true ram system that takes in cold air from a scoop fixed down on the front spoiler. But the K&N is not setting on the ground like the Halltech TRIC system. It appears that the scoop (misp? I can't spell) would funnel cold air directly into the filter box quite well. The Vortex sits on top of the radiator schroud with a small hole cut into it.
Now, on the dyno the car is not moving. It is fixed and is simply sucking air through the mechanism. The Vortex seems to have a smaller filter and would suck in more air at a stand still. But at moving speeds it would seem that the MTI would pull in more air and push it by force through the filter by brute force. No, it is not the same ram air type running straight into the throttle body as did the old WS6 and Camaro LT1 SS setups. But, this product does seem to offer more potential.
What is the quality of this piece? Any feedback here?
Best Regards,
John
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Re: MTI Ram Air Kit (x_rckstar)
Well, i have the MTI ram air kit. Check my sig for times. These are all with the 2.73 gear ratio A4. In the heat, it doesnt make that much difference, but when the weather cools off, it really helps. The only thing i worry about is sucking water into the motor when it rains. For this reason, i just carry a beach towel, roll it up and tuck it into the intake.You lose a lot of performance with the towel, but who needs the extra performance in the rain. It still idles and runs fine, just wont get enough air at WOT. There was a similar car on the track with the 3.15 gears and halltech tric (includes MAF ends) that was running just 1 tenth faster than me at the time in the heat. Now, i have 3 tenths better than the times he was running.
Daren
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Re: MTI Ram Air Kit (x_rckstar)
the mti kit is definitely a good kit. you really can't lose no matter which one you go with. personally, i think you should do the mti simply because nobody else you know in KC has one. :)
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Re: MTI Ram Air Kit (tattooed)
I think you are right Ken!!!
I was all set to buy the Breathless, but came across the MTI setup the other day and was intrigued. It looks like it has some good potential. I am going to order one or the other by the end of next week.
Then I will shut up:-)
JC
I was all set to buy the Breathless, but came across the MTI setup the other day and was intrigued. It looks like it has some good potential. I am going to order one or the other by the end of next week.
Then I will shut up:-)
JC
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From: Murphy Texas
Re: MTI Ram Air Kit (x_rckstar)
I installed the MTI kit awhile and am very satisified with it. Good quality construction, well engineered, and it looks deceptively stock....except for that big honk'n scoop under the front. :D :yesnod:
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Re: MTI Ram Air Kit (G Man)
I've had the MTI kit on for about 15 months. You can't beat it for looks. There has been much debate on the "ram" effect or lack of it, but I just can't see how it is just not the best aftermarket air intake application out there.
I did have a problem with a piece that had cracked this summer. I e-mailed some digi pics to MTI and they immediately UPS'd me another piece, no questions ask.
I did have a problem with a piece that had cracked this summer. I e-mailed some digi pics to MTI and they immediately UPS'd me another piece, no questions ask.
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Re: MTI Ram Air Kit (Gary2KC5)
I did have a problem with a piece that had cracked this summer. I e-mailed some digi pics to MTI and they immediately UPS'd me another piece, no questions ask.
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Re: MTI Ram Air Kit (x_rckstar)
The MTI Ram Air Kit was my first mod. After going 14.09@99.2, I knew that I had to do something. After the Ram Air, I ran 13.65@103.2x. A definite improvement.
I don't drive the car in the rain, so water injestion is not a problem for me.
I don't drive the car in the rain, so water injestion is not a problem for me.
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Re: MTI Ram Air Kit (x_rckstar)
I have the Vortex and I am very pleased but I think they are both good and another guy in our club has the MTI. They both show about the same on a dyno with a huge fan pushing air. Either way you need to be cautious of heavy rain. Sooner or later EVERYONE will get caught in the rain at a show so be ready
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Re: MTI Ram Air Kit (iceburgh68)
This Ram Air is certainly one of the best available. The quality is very good as is the performance increase over stock.
The water ingestion issue is a valid one but has been understandably blown out of proportion. After much feedback and testing it is now known that only submursion of the scoop will lead to engine damage. Many people, including myself, have drive in heavy rain conditons with no ill effects.
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The water ingestion issue is a valid one but has been understandably blown out of proportion. After much feedback and testing it is now known that only submursion of the scoop will lead to engine damage. Many people, including myself, have drive in heavy rain conditons with no ill effects.
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Re: MTI Ram Air Kit (C5Cemo)
need to keep in mind the best way to drive through potentially deep standing water if the situation presents itself too (as it has with me on occasion). do NOT slow down while in the water and then accelerate hard out of it, or put the car in neutral and rev. this will force the engine to draw in air (and water). i know this seems like com mon sense, but some people (not you of course) need to be reminded. the best way to navigate through standing water is to drive through at a moderate steady speed at low rpm. correct me if i'm wrong.
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Re: MTI Ram Air Kit (tattooed)
That's a good point. I agree that you should keep the revs up. The engine needs to be able to flow whatever volume of water it ingests, God forbid.
I don't ahve any first-hand experience in the 'Vette but I almost killed my Exploder in the recent 500 years flood that hit Houston. I kept it floored especially when the water started to go over the hood and it made it through even though there was water shooting out of the exhaust when I beached it on the lawn :eek:
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I don't ahve any first-hand experience in the 'Vette but I almost killed my Exploder in the recent 500 years flood that hit Houston. I kept it floored especially when the water started to go over the hood and it made it through even though there was water shooting out of the exhaust when I beached it on the lawn :eek:
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