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I have read the archives about jacking and lifts. I just got back from my first service. I said to the tech, don't you need cushions for the lift pad? He said no that it was a special curved pad that was used for vettes. I climbed underneath and saw no damage. Is that true? Certain lifts don't need pucks? Do the lifts contact the car at the same point our jack stand does? Even though I see no damage (although I do see a lot of factory glue hanging down all over the place) maybe I was just lucky. This tech was going to put Quaker State synthetic in if I hadn't been watching. I'm sure he would have jammed in the other half quart, but I warned him about that. Then, he got in and out of the thing with an ancient cell phone hanging off his right pocket and scuffed the center console vinyl! I thought for sure he would move it or take it off before he dropped into the seat! This was my first time at this dealership and I probably should have been more aggressive and more of a pain and asked more questions of who was going to work on it. It was only an oil change! Now I see why so many of us do it ourselves. I know Carl told me they would take my car away if I use Jiffy Lube, but I saw nothing better at the dealership. At least at Jiffy, I don't have to worry about them jacking or driving the car and I can watch them and remind them about tightening stuff. Anyway, now that I've vented, I could use your help in understanding this lift puck thing.
My thought on this is, "Better safe than sorry." I bought a set of the billet pads from LAPD and insist they be used regardless of whether the mechanic thinks they're needed or not.
Do yourself A Favor and go on the forum mall and purchase a set of 4 Pucks to keep in the car at all times. Also Change your oil yourself and use nothing but Mobile-1 5w 30 and a UPF44 delco Gold filter. The dealers hire trained Monkeys to do oil changes and they are not trained very well. I would never change the oil if I was forced to use A dealer to do it. I would just keep it topped off. Most Jiffy lube places drain the oil over A pit and All of the old Oil does not come out as the rear of the car must be above the front of the car for proper draining. They only drain out about 5 quarts and overfill the crankcase when they try to put the 6 1/2 quarts back in it. Then people wonder why the have seals leaking. Get the Pucks and go to A service station and if they don't sell Mobil 1 take your own with you and at least you can guide the person at the station how to change your oil. The Upf 44 Delco filters can be purchased on the Forum mall at LAPD. On one of these Forums there is A tech Tip on changing your oil. It is worth you looking it up to see what is the proper way. Mobil 1 can be purchased at Walmart or K-Mart or most Auto stores. :nonod: :nonod: :sad: :U :U
Update! They did some damage! His "special lift" prongs indented the lower gauge rails that run parallel to the lifting rails. I don't know what they are called. I guess they spanned that area. I can't believe I can't get an oil change without damage. What would ever happen if I really needed something fixed? BTW, I didn't see him pull it into the lift and it was already up before I could even see he wasn't using any cushions or pucks.
Do you mind if I ask what dealer this is? I'd guess Reedman's if you're in Langhorne. I wasn't impressed with them myself when I looked at their stock this summer. I wound up at Bryner, which was much better, but I'd still do the oil and little stuff myself. I got a set of those pucks for xmas, but haven't got around to trying them yet. They should work nicely. :seeya
They're the J 43625 lift pads, and you can get them from Ken Fichtner. I keep four of them in my car, and insist they are used. The local Chevy dealer told me they never use them, so I never use the local Chevy dealer. The service manual mandates the use of these pads with any frame contact hoist.