Horn and muffler...
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From: Copperas Cove TX
Horn and muffler...
Hi all I just bought a C5 corvette not long ago and took it in to get a safety inspect on it and it failed cuz the horn doesn't work and i need a muffler I was wondering if anyone could help i just bought atm-20 fuses cuz i think i read about someone changing fuses.. anyways i have no clue what i'm doing if anyone has picture steps and such it would be awesome thanks.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Hi all I just bought a C5 corvette not long ago and took it in to get a safety inspect on it and it failed cuz the horn doesn't work and i need a muffler I was wondering if anyone could help i just bought atm-20 fuses cuz i think i read about someone changing fuses.. anyways i have no clue what i'm doing if anyone has picture steps and such it would be awesome thanks.
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Did you get the owners manual (OM) when you bought the car? It can provide a lot of useful information in the future.
If you didn't get one, I would recommend getting one at your earliest convenience. They are readily available for very reasonable prices, either used or new.
You have two fuse panels. One is inside on the passenger side "toeboard" behind a removable panel at the front of the floorboard. (There are two latches that secure the panel)
The second, is in the engine compartment near the battery, and this is where your horn fuse is located. Unscrew the ****, lift off the lid and you will see a diagram sticker attached to the underside of the lid. Your horn fuse is #11.
Try to give us a bit more info on your muffler if you could. Is it corroded through? Is the mounting flange broken at the weld (common problem on earlier C5s btw) where it connects to the "mid pipe" section? There are a couple different ways to approach this, depending on what the problem is.
HTH
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From: Copperas Cove TX
awesome thanks for the fuse box location but horn still not working :-X any ideas? no sound of any kind almost feels like no movement when i push and thank for all the welcomes :-D also as for the muffler i have a quad exhaust if that means anything i'll have to ask the guy that sold it to me about it and i don't have the manual i guess i will get it next month
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awesome thanks for the fuse box location but horn still not working :-X any ideas? no sound of any kind almost feels like no movement when i push and thank for all the welcomes :-D also as for the muffler i have a quad exhaust if that means anything i'll have to ask the guy that sold it to me about it and i don't have the manual i guess i will get it next month
What did the shop that failed your inspection tell you about the muffler? Did they just say "you need a new muffler" and let it go at that? Still need more info.
On the horns, did your old fuse look OK? Was it blown? A relay (#36 and also in the fuse panel under the hood) is also in the horn control circuit too, so that's another possible culprit too.
If you don't have the expertise or equipment to troubleshoot the horn circuit, I would take the car to someone who does. The problem may be the horns themselves (unlikely as both would have to fail at the same time), the horn relay, a bad connection, or lastly, the horn contacts in the steering wheel (
). The first thing I would do is determine if voltage is present at the fuse when the steering wheel button is pushed and go from there.
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I checked #36 and there wasn't a fuse there so ya that might be the issue :-X but as far as the muffler i believe her exact words were you need a muffler as imposing that i didn't have one? btw thanks for the owner's manual was lookin for one so got it now
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Sounds like you need to take your car to someone to get the relay replaced or if you want to buy one and replace it yourself, the GM part number is: 12088567 It's worth a shot and hey, you need a horn relay anyway.
Just because the relay is missing, then replacing it doesn't automatically mean your horns will start working. They MAY or MAY NOT, depending on why the relay was removed in the first place. If it does not, then more troubleshooting will be necessary.
Go back to where you got shot down on your inspection and ask them to explain in more detail what they mean by "You need a muffler". That aint gonna hack it.
Ask them to explain or better yet, SHOW you where the problem is.
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From: Copperas Cove TX
Sweet the relay bus worked the horn is good 
as for the muffler i am runnin outta time i will try to take it in tomorrow and see what's up but everything has to be done by friday or else i ge screwed i got a court date for my inspec on the 16th but i leave to special forces selection and assessment training this sunday... hopefully i can get it done for cheap uz low on cash too but thanks for all the help thus far u guys rock! definately better than getting a mech to fix it
as for the muffler i am runnin outta time i will try to take it in tomorrow and see what's up but everything has to be done by friday or else i ge screwed i got a court date for my inspec on the 16th but i leave to special forces selection and assessment training this sunday... hopefully i can get it done for cheap uz low on cash too but thanks for all the help thus far u guys rock! definately better than getting a mech to fix it
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From: Belleville Il
I'm surprised no one asked,,is it a stock muffler system?? If it is post and there MIGHT be someone in your general area with a usable take off!! One of the first mods done is after market cat back systems. should be able to get it cheap!!
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Not only that, depending on what "you need a muffler" means, it may be something repairable at a muffler shop (broken weld for example).Take it by a Midas or whoever you like and have them take a look. Sure won't hurt to find what the exact "problem" is.
HTH
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From: Copperas Cove TX
sorry been kinda busy ya i had no muffler at all but since i was running outta time and have no lift i got them to put in glass somethin or anothers for $130 just to pass inspec completely broke lol but now i know where the muffler goes and what not i watched but thanks for the help maybe i can put an awesome after market muffler in later when i get mo cash
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From: East Hampton CT
Sweet the relay bus worked the horn is good as for the muffler i am runnin outta time i will try to take it in tomorrow and see what's up but everything has to be done by friday or else i ge screwed i got a court date for my inspec on the 16th but i leave to special forces selection and assessment training this sunday... hopefully i can get it done for cheap uz low on cash too but thanks for all the help thus far u guys rock! definately better than getting a mech to fix it
as for the muffler i am runnin outta time i will try to take it in tomorrow and see what's up but everything has to be done by friday or else i ge screwed i got a court date for my inspec on the 16th but i leave to special forces selection and assessment training this sunday... hopefully i can get it done for cheap uz low on cash too but thanks for all the help thus far u guys rock! definately better than getting a mech to fix it