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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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Has anybody made their own skip shift eliminator?

I'm curious. I mean it's a cheap part. However, I'm sure it's just a resistor. Does anybody know what value and where to place it?

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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Has anybody made their own skip shift eliminator?

I'm curious. I mean it's a cheap part. However, I'm sure it's just a resistor. Does anybody know what value and where to place it?

Thanks!
Right, but for a whopping $20, you get a factory connector that plugs right in, so the harness plug is not exposed.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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I think it's 2200 ohms. I don't remember. I've had mine in there for almost 6 years and it's been fine. I jsut put a glop of silicone in to hold it in place and keep out the moisture and dirt.
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I have one laying around brand new in the package. I never installed it since I programmed out using EFI Live. I will mail it to you for $10! In my opinion it is not worth the effort to make yourself.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ericdwong
I think it's 2200 ohms. I don't remember. I've had mine in there for almost 6 years and it's been fine. I jsut put a glop of silicone in to hold it in place and keep out the moisture and dirt.

I believe that is the right value. Mine has been in for 1 year.
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
Right, but for a whopping $20, you get a factory connector that plugs right in, so the harness plug is not exposed.
Plus, for the guys using a resistor, what Wattage are you using? Resistors come in a variety of Wattage ratings (how much current it can handle before failing from heat) too and just any old 2200 ohm resistor may or may not work (for long).

I agree with Lucky. For a quick, easy, plug-n-play, the pre-assembled units are the way to go.
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I wonder how many accidents this CAGS has caused since its inception. It is the stupidest thing ive ever seen.
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Plus, for the guys using a resistor, what Wattage are you using? Resistors come in a variety of Wattage ratings (how much current it can handle before failing from heat) too and just any old 2200 ohm resistor may or may not work (for long).

I agree with Lucky. For a quick, easy, plug-n-play, the pre-assembled units are the way to go.
I would think the signal from the trany is low power. So I wouldn't worry much about the wattage. Would tend to think the standard resistor would work just fine.

Yeah your probably right why would anyone bother. I was just curious though and have lots of resistors laying around.

Anyone hacked the PCM before? Anyone have two flashes... one before skip shift and one after skip shift elimination? I could easily set the flag myself
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Originally Posted by Pwrtrip75
I wonder how many accidents this CAGS has caused since its inception. It is the stupidest thing ive ever seen.
But do you know why it's there? Because of CAGS, we are able to avoid the "gas guzzler tax". Since I don't have to pay that annually I can easily afford a $20 CAGS eliminator (or heaven forbid get off my butt and have a buddy with HPtuners turn it off).
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Originally Posted by Pwrtrip75
I wonder how many accidents this CAGS has caused since its inception. It is the stupidest thing ive ever seen.


Be glad. Be very glad. If that feature was not there, GM would not have been able to get the car EPA certified for the fuel mileage numbers they publish for the car and you would have likely been paying a "gas guzzler" tax. $20 is a cheap price to pay to eliminate it. BTW, that feature can also be turned off by a tuner when tuning.

As far as "accidents"? None that I'm aware of.
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC


Be glad. Be very glad. If that feature was not there, GM would not have been able to get the car EPA certified for the fuel mileage numbers they publish for the car and you would have likely been paying a "gas guzzler" tax. $20 is a cheap price to pay to eliminate it. BTW, that feature can also be turned off by a tuner when tuning.

As far as "accidents"? None that I'm aware of.
You want to be like me. LOL!
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Originally Posted by weinerschizel
I would think the signal from the trany is low power. So I wouldn't worry much about the wattage. Would tend to think the standard resistor would work just fine.

Yeah your probably right why would anyone bother. I was just curious though and have lots of resistors laying around.

Anyone hacked the PCM before? Anyone have two flashes... one before skip shift and one after skip shift elimination? I could easily set the flag myself
What's a "standard" resistor? Is it 1/8 Watt, 1/4 Watt, 1/2 Watt, etc. No such thing as a "standard resistor". The circuit to the skip shift solenoid has to be able to handle what ever current the solenoid draws when it activates and that would determine the correct Wattage. It may not be a whole lot, but if I were to do this, I would go for a little over-kill on the wattage rating and use a 1 Watt or maybe a 3 Watt. Still very cheap.

As far as turning that function off, I am only aware of those who have a Tech II scan tool being able to do it.

HTH
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
Plus, for the guys using a resistor, what Wattage are you using? Resistors come in a variety of Wattage ratings (how much current it can handle before failing from heat) too and just any old 2200 ohm resistor may or may not work (for long).

I agree with Lucky. For a quick, easy, plug-n-play, the pre-assembled units are the way to go.
I would think the signal from the trany is low power. So I wouldn't worry much about the wattage. Would tend to think the standard resistor would work just fine.

Yeah your probably right why would anyone bother. I was just curious though and have lots of resistors laying around.

Anyone hacked the PCM before? Anyone have two flashes... one before skip shift and one after skip shift elimination? I could easily set the flag myself
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Originally Posted by N4cer
You want to be like me. LOL!

I think I was still typing when you posted.

I agree that the CAGS feature can be a PITA, but it's so easily and cheaply eliminated, it's not that big of a deal. Sometimes ya just have to take the bad with the good.
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
What's a "standard" resistor? Is it 1/8 Watt, 1/4 Watt, 1/2 Watt, etc. No such thing as a "standard resistor". The circuit to the skip shift solenoid has to be able to handle what ever current the solenoid draws when it activates and that would determine the correct Wattage. It may not be a whole lot, but if I were to do this, I would go for a little over-kill on the wattage rating and use a 1 Watt or maybe a 3 Watt. Still very cheap.

As far as turning that function off, I am only aware of those who have a Tech II scan tool being able to do it.

HTH
It can be done in EFI Live...I assume HP Tuner also.
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Originally Posted by vsocks1
It can be done in EFI Live...I assume HP Tuner also.
Well there ya go.
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Yep both of them can turn it off. Heck, LS1edit may even be able to.
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