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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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my headlamp took a dump the other day. when i would turn it on or off the motor would keep running. when i opened up the motor, the plastic gear was destroyed and the rubber piece pretty much exploded. got new plastic gear and new rubber piece. put plenty of grease on the gears. put the whole thing back together. headlamp worked perfect. . . for about 3 cycles. now its making the same noise. everytime that noise occurs the plastic gears is getting trashed by the metal worm gear. something is telling the motor to run longer then it needs to. any ideas?
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got new plastic gear and...
first mistake; should of bought the brass replacement gear, and then it's brass on brass.

something is telling the motor to run longer then it needs to.
not really. There are no sensors telling the motor to stop. It's a straight timing function. Once fully open or closed, the motor is stalled until the timer shuts off voltage to the motor.

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first mistake; should or bought the brass replacement gear, and then it's brass on brass.



not really. There are no sensors telling the motor to stop. It's a straight timing function. Once fully open or closed, the motor is stalled until the timer shuts off voltage to the motor.
I thought that the circuitry sensed the excess load on the motor (when the mechanical stops are contacted) and at that moment the circuitry electronically cuts the current to the motor.

The power windows also work this way.

I’ve been known to be wrong – happened once in 1982 as near as I can recollect.
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I thought that the circuitry sensed the excess load on the motor (when the mechanical stops are contacted) and at that moment the circuitry electronically cuts the current to the motor.
I thought that as well. But if you remove the mechanical stops, the headlight motor will not just continue to run & run (with the headlamp flipping up & down)... it stops automatically just a few seconds after when it should of stopped - even in a no-load condition. Maybe it senses a load and uses a timer as a backup incase something goes wrong.

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im going to take the motor apart tomorrow. my concern is getting the copper gears, then if the motor keeps trying to go after the light is up/down its going to burn up the motor.
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im going to take the motor apart tomorrow. my concern is getting the copper gears, then if the motor keeps trying to go after the light is up/down its going to burn up the motor.
Stick with the plastic then..
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Stick with the plastic then..
Stick with the plastic gears. Your problem is not with the motor, it does use a torque shutoff by the way, It is your headlamp control module that is the problem. It is not shutting off the power to the motor at full open or closed. I had this same problem on my '01. I went through 2 sets of gears. I bought a used module, installed it and ..end of problem.

Good luck.
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awesome, thanks for all the info everyone. whered you get the module from?
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You can get them here.

http://www.rodneydickman.com/retail_new.html
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hate to sound like a newb but where is the module located?
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Originally Posted by ClockworkC5
hate to sound like a newb but where is the module located?
It is on the passenger side bolted to the wall just under the headlight.
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im looking everywhere on rodneydickman.com but dont see the control module. where did you find a used one?
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where else can i get the module, or should i just call rodney dickmen?
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Originally Posted by ClockworkC5
im looking everywhere on rodneydickman.com but dont see the control module. where did you find a used one?
I've had success on a couple used items from justcorvettes.com in St. Charles, MO.

For new go to either GM forum vendor: Fichtner Chev or GMpartshouse.

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