Dyno Results
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Burning Brakes
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From: FL
Dyno Results
Hello,
I am getting ready to do a cam swap next month so I brought my car in for a baseline dyno session to see where it was at before the mods. So, I thought I would share my experience for others looking at similar upgrades.
The car right now...
- 2002 Z06 with 28,000 miles
- Halltech Venom Intake
- LG Street Headers with no cats
- Stock TI catback exhaust
- Stock Z06 rims
- Nitto Extreme RII Drag Radials
- New AC Delco Irridium Spark Plugs
- New GMPP Plug Wires
- All fresh fluids
- Self tuned MAF only
- AFR set to 12.6, timing at WOT is 24 degrees
The dyno...
- MustangDyno
- Temperature was 88 degrees
- Humidity was 80%
- Weight was set at 3300lbs
Dyno Results...
- Pull one - 389.9rwhp, 355rwtq
- Pull two - 383.9rwhp, 351rwtq
- Pull three - 385.4rwhp, 353rwtq
I was surpirsed that the car put down such good numbers on a tough Dyno with basic bolt ons. I wish I would have Dynoed before the mods to see the increase along the way. The shop says that most bolt on C5Z06s they dyno put down around 360-370rwhp. Looks like my motor is breaking in well. i hope I don't regret tearing into it.
The Plan....
Next month I will be installing phase one of the AFR heads/cam combo.
- AFR 224/228 cam, .581/.588 on 114 LSA
- ASP 25% underdrive pulley
- Patriot Gold Dual valvespring kit
- Comp Hardened Pushrods
- New belts, gaskets, ARP bolt
- Full Dyno and Street Tune
The target goal is 8-10rwhp from the underdrive pulley and 30-40rwhp from the mild cam. If all goes well we are talking stock C6 ZO6 performance numbers for about $2500 in parts. Pretty impressive from a 346cu motor.
I plan to add a pair of AFR heads and ported FAST intake down the road.
I am getting ready to do a cam swap next month so I brought my car in for a baseline dyno session to see where it was at before the mods. So, I thought I would share my experience for others looking at similar upgrades.
The car right now...
- 2002 Z06 with 28,000 miles
- Halltech Venom Intake
- LG Street Headers with no cats
- Stock TI catback exhaust
- Stock Z06 rims
- Nitto Extreme RII Drag Radials
- New AC Delco Irridium Spark Plugs
- New GMPP Plug Wires
- All fresh fluids
- Self tuned MAF only
- AFR set to 12.6, timing at WOT is 24 degrees
The dyno...
- MustangDyno
- Temperature was 88 degrees
- Humidity was 80%
- Weight was set at 3300lbs
Dyno Results...
- Pull one - 389.9rwhp, 355rwtq
- Pull two - 383.9rwhp, 351rwtq
- Pull three - 385.4rwhp, 353rwtq
I was surpirsed that the car put down such good numbers on a tough Dyno with basic bolt ons. I wish I would have Dynoed before the mods to see the increase along the way. The shop says that most bolt on C5Z06s they dyno put down around 360-370rwhp. Looks like my motor is breaking in well. i hope I don't regret tearing into it.
The Plan....
Next month I will be installing phase one of the AFR heads/cam combo.
- AFR 224/228 cam, .581/.588 on 114 LSA
- ASP 25% underdrive pulley
- Patriot Gold Dual valvespring kit
- Comp Hardened Pushrods
- New belts, gaskets, ARP bolt
- Full Dyno and Street Tune
The target goal is 8-10rwhp from the underdrive pulley and 30-40rwhp from the mild cam. If all goes well we are talking stock C6 ZO6 performance numbers for about $2500 in parts. Pretty impressive from a 346cu motor.
I plan to add a pair of AFR heads and ported FAST intake down the road.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jun 2005
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From: Sicamous BC
I agree with your comments regarding hi numbers from the mustang. I'm heading to a mustang dyno Monday with a similar cam that you are installing, AFR's, ported Fast 90/90, LG pro's, ASP & EWP. Where I'm located no way to do baseline runs as you did, very important. Doesn't matter if your numbers are hi or low you will have concrete gains which is the most important. I was hoping to find someone who had a baseline mustang dyno run on a stock 6spd car so I could something to gauge by.
Former Vendor
Joined: Mar 2004
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From: Valencia CA
Most dyno's can be manipulated higher or lower....Mustangs can produce Dynojet numbers or higher depending on the set-up.
The key is to go to the same shop/dyno everytime you want to evaluate a change. This way your actually getting an education of sorts. Without doing that the results arent worth the paper their printed on (much like flowing heads on different types of equipment is a useless exercise). Dyno's and flowbenches are similar in that they are both extremely useful tools, but to be effective its always best to stay on the same one thru the R&D phase of the project.
I think your numbers are strong, but not out of line. Most stock C5 Z's put down 355 ish.....headers and an airbox with the right tune to compliment them could easily add 30 RWHP to the mix.
The next round of mods looks good....more power while still retaining good drivability.
Looking forward to the results!
Cheers,
Tony
The key is to go to the same shop/dyno everytime you want to evaluate a change. This way your actually getting an education of sorts. Without doing that the results arent worth the paper their printed on (much like flowing heads on different types of equipment is a useless exercise). Dyno's and flowbenches are similar in that they are both extremely useful tools, but to be effective its always best to stay on the same one thru the R&D phase of the project.
I think your numbers are strong, but not out of line. Most stock C5 Z's put down 355 ish.....headers and an airbox with the right tune to compliment them could easily add 30 RWHP to the mix.
The next round of mods looks good....more power while still retaining good drivability.
Looking forward to the results!
Cheers,
Tony
Safety Car
Joined: Oct 2004
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From: Plano TX
those numbers are about right on for those mods.. My 02 Z06 put down 381rwhp and 362 rwtq on a dyno jet SAE corrected...AFR 12.9. My only mods are the halltech intake and a damn good dynotune. The best thing to do is stick with the same dyno and operator to make sure things are consistant.. Dyno numbers vary quite a bit depending on all sorts of factors from make and model to corrected or uncorrected numbers.. My car made 352rwhp bone stock on the same dyno
Last edited by David426; Oct 4, 2008 at 03:21 PM.
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,048
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From: FL
Most dyno's can be manipulated higher or lower....Mustangs can produce Dynojet numbers or higher depending on the set-up.
The key is to go to the same shop/dyno everytime you want to evaluate a change. This way your actually getting an education of sorts. Without doing that the results arent worth the paper their printed on (much like flowing heads on different types of equipment is a useless exercise). Dyno's and flowbenches are similar in that they are both extremely useful tools, but to be effective its always best to stay on the same one thru the R&D phase of the project.
I think your numbers are strong, but not out of line. Most stock C5 Z's put down 355 ish.....headers and an airbox with the right tune to compliment them could easily add 30 RWHP to the mix.
The next round of mods looks good....more power while still retaining good drivability.
Looking forward to the results!
Cheers,
Tony
The key is to go to the same shop/dyno everytime you want to evaluate a change. This way your actually getting an education of sorts. Without doing that the results arent worth the paper their printed on (much like flowing heads on different types of equipment is a useless exercise). Dyno's and flowbenches are similar in that they are both extremely useful tools, but to be effective its always best to stay on the same one thru the R&D phase of the project.
I think your numbers are strong, but not out of line. Most stock C5 Z's put down 355 ish.....headers and an airbox with the right tune to compliment them could easily add 30 RWHP to the mix.
The next round of mods looks good....more power while still retaining good drivability.
Looking forward to the results!
Cheers,
Tony
Thanks Tony.
The owner of the shop gave me some insight on how the dyno can be manipulated. Unfortunately, he also educated me on how some shops will manipulate their dynos so that they produce the "high" numbers around town in hopes of drawing the most business. The good thing about my car was I tuned it myself, they just strapped it down and tested. I was pretty proud to verify that my street tune was very good. I could have added a couple of degrees of timing from 3000-4100but otherwise the AFR was flat all the way.
I am still confused on how these Mustang Dynos compare to the more popular Dynojets. I was told that if I put my car on a DynoJet I would put 6-8% higher numbers. How could a bolt on Z06 be over (headers, air intake and tune) be over 400rwhp? Seems geneorus too me.
Anyway, this is a lot of fun. My new target is 430rwhp after the cam and pulley. A pair of your heads and a port match intake are on the horizon.
Former Vendor
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 1,518
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From: Valencia CA
Thanks Tony.
The owner of the shop gave me some insight on how the dyno can be manipulated. Unfortunately, he also educated me on how some shops will manipulate their dynos so that they produce the "high" numbers around town in hopes of drawing the most business. The good thing about my car was I tuned it myself, they just strapped it down and tested. I was pretty proud to verify that my street tune was very good. I could have added a couple of degrees of timing from 3000-4100but otherwise the AFR was flat all the way.
I am still confused on how these Mustang Dynos compare to the more popular Dynojets. I was told that if I put my car on a DynoJet I would put 6-8% higher numbers. How could a bolt on Z06 be over (headers, air intake and tune) be over 400rwhp? Seems geneorus too me.
Anyway, this is a lot of fun. My new target is 430rwhp after the cam and pulley. A pair of your heads and a port match intake are on the horizon.
The owner of the shop gave me some insight on how the dyno can be manipulated. Unfortunately, he also educated me on how some shops will manipulate their dynos so that they produce the "high" numbers around town in hopes of drawing the most business. The good thing about my car was I tuned it myself, they just strapped it down and tested. I was pretty proud to verify that my street tune was very good. I could have added a couple of degrees of timing from 3000-4100but otherwise the AFR was flat all the way.
I am still confused on how these Mustang Dynos compare to the more popular Dynojets. I was told that if I put my car on a DynoJet I would put 6-8% higher numbers. How could a bolt on Z06 be over (headers, air intake and tune) be over 400rwhp? Seems geneorus too me.
Anyway, this is a lot of fun. My new target is 430rwhp after the cam and pulley. A pair of your heads and a port match intake are on the horizon.
Bottom line like I and a few others chimed in, go back to the same dyno for all your upgrades and the data you have is all real world and very relevant.
Consider doing the heads and the ported induction at the same time....save up longer if you have to. Its actually cheaper that way because your only paying for a single tune versus having to do it over. One directly compliments the other and you will see a nice shot in the arm in power and torque.
Good luck with everything....
Tony
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Burning Brakes
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: FL
[QUOTE=Tony Mamo @ AFR;1567349494]Sounds like this dyno is already calibrated to closely match a Dynojet....If I owned a Mustang dyno its exactly what I would do. I dont care who you are, people dont want to hear "you could have made 20 more on a DynoJet"....they want to see that number on their dynoslip....end of story.
Bottom line like I and a few others chimed in, go back to the same dyno for all your upgrades and the data you have is all real world and very relevant.
Consider doing the heads and the ported induction at the same time....save up longer if you have to. Its actually cheaper that way because your only paying for a single tune versus having to do it over. One directly compliments the other and you will see a nice shot in the arm in power and torque.
Thanks. Yep, I will be using the same shop for the install and tune so the results will be validated. I will give you a call before I order the heads and intake.
Bottom line like I and a few others chimed in, go back to the same dyno for all your upgrades and the data you have is all real world and very relevant.
Consider doing the heads and the ported induction at the same time....save up longer if you have to. Its actually cheaper that way because your only paying for a single tune versus having to do it over. One directly compliments the other and you will see a nice shot in the arm in power and torque.
Thanks. Yep, I will be using the same shop for the install and tune so the results will be validated. I will give you a call before I order the heads and intake.
