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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Before you say do a search....I did and found to much conflicting info.

I have heard that some synthetics will kill my paper blockers in my 99 trans. I have heard that there is a Royal Purple that will run fine in my trans and that there is one I should not run. I read on some threads that both are actually fine.

All I want to know is what Royal Purple is safe to run in my early M6 w/ paper blockers?!?!?!?!?

Doing wires, plugs, oil change, and TICK adjustable master before I hit the track this spring. Figured I'd do he tranny fluid while I'm at it.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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[QUOTE=nickolbag;1568700655]Before you say do a search....I did and found to much conflicting info.

I have heard that some synthetics will kill my paper blockers in my 99 trans. I have heard that there is a Royal Purple that will run fine in my trans and that there is one I should not run. I read on some threads that both are actually fine.

I run the GM Synchromesh (synthetic fluid) supposedly this fluid is OK for all M6 & M12 tranny's.My tranny is a aftermarket peice so there are no paper blockers to worry about.Check with GMPP about the Syncromesh product...it's good stuff.

I have read several negitive treads about the RP product on LS1 TECH,and the issues were more than just related to the paper blockers.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 01:56 PM
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nick, research it, i did a lot and found AMSoil ATF is better (they do have for manual tranny too but not preferable, AMSoil dealer told me when i did).

I have drive 2k miles after i replaced and no problems yet.
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I have read several negitive treads about the RP product on LS1 TECH,and the issues were more than just related to the paper blockers.

I read stuff about their engine oil but nothing negative about the tranny fluid. Guess I'll head over to Tech and maybe I can get an answer there.

I just dont want to cause premature tranny failure cause of some fluid I used.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 02:50 PM
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Use Royal Purple Synchromax, trust me on this one. I as well as a ton of other BMW M3 owners swear by it. Our M3's use a lifetime fluid from the factory, not sure if yor vettes do. And we all choose to replace that garbage with royal purple synchromax. Best stuff ive ever put in a gearbox.
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Use Royal Purple Synchromax, trust me on this one. I as well as a ton of other BMW M3 owners swear by it. Our M3's use a lifetime fluid from the factory, not sure if yor vettes do. And we all choose to replace that garbage with royal purple synchromax. Best stuff ive ever put in a gearbox.
Yes but do your M3 gearboxes have the paper blockers like my trans does? My concern is putting in a synthetic that will eat these paper blockers up. I haev read of many pros claim they will never use RP because they eat the blockers up. Not an issue if upgraded to carbon but I'm sticking to the paper for now. I do not want to hurt longevity.

Seems the guys on tech have not settled on what synthetics work and what ones don't.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Before you say do a search....I did and found to much conflicting info.

I have heard that some synthetics will kill my paper blockers in my 99 trans. I have heard that there is a Royal Purple that will run fine in my trans and that there is one I should not run. I read on some threads that both are actually fine.

I run the GM Synchromesh (synthetic fluid) supposedly this fluid is OK for all M6 & M12 tranny's.My tranny is a aftermarket peice so there are no paper blockers to worry about.Check with GMPP about the Syncromesh product...it's good stuff.

I have read several negitive treads about the RP product on LS1 TECH,and the issues were more than just related to the paper blockers.
I actually should have said negitive RP posts on tranny fluid treads.There are so many opinions that it's hard to tell the real facts from fiction.However,that paper blocker issue does appear a number times in various treads...would have to be conserned about the possibility of a problem developing with that product.

I doubt that the BMW's mentioned in the previous post have paper blockers...so it's not apples to apples.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 98vettedave

I actually should have said negitive RP posts on tranny fluid treads.There are so many opinions that it's hard to tell the real facts from fiction.However,that paper blocker issue does appear a number times in various treads...would have to be conserned about the possibility of a problem developing with that product.

I doubt that the BMW's mentioned in the previous post have paper blockers...so it's not apples to apples.
The conflicting opinions are what got me worried and why I made this post. Nobody seems to agree on anything.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sami85L98
nick, research it, i did a lot and found AMSoil ATF is better (they do have for manual tranny too but not preferable, AMSoil dealer told me when i did).

I have drive 2k miles after i replaced and no problems yet.


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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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So why not just replace with the stock fluid??
It has worked fine for you so far.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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I had problems running Mobil 1 in my 1998 M6 transmission after 50,000 miles. It would grind going into 6th gear. I changed clutch fluid, no change. I changed fluid to Amsoil ATD and the grinding stopped immediately. Now, 18,000 miles later, no problems.

From my experience, Mobil 1 ATF is NOT compatable with 1998-2000 M6 transmissions and Amsoil ATD is.

The advantage of a synthetic fluid is easier shifting, especially during cold temperatures.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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I thought about going to synthetic when I changed the fluid in my '98 but I ended up going with the recommended dextron. Runs fine although I don't drive it in the winter so I don't know if there would be day to day issues.
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So why not just replace with the stock fluid??
It has worked fine for you so far.
It works fine most of the time. When I'm ripping it down a drag strip I would like the car to shift as smooth as possible. Most agree synthetic helps create a smoother shift. If I were just street driving it I would stick with the stock stuff but cause of the drag racing I want synthetic.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldvetter
I had problems running Mobil 1 in my 1998 M6 transmission after 50,000 miles. It would grind going into 6th gear. I changed clutch fluid, no change. I changed fluid to Amsoil ATD and the grinding stopped immediately. Now, 18,000 miles later, no problems.

From my experience, Mobil 1 ATF is NOT compatable with 1998-2000 M6 transmissions and Amsoil ATD is.

The advantage of a synthetic fluid is easier shifting, especially during cold temperatures.
Where can I get this Amsoil ATD? In all my searches this is the only one people said they didn't have a problem with.
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by nickolbag
Where can I get this Amsoil ATD? In all my searches this is the only one people said they didn't have a problem with.
Subdriver is a dealer. Look at post #6 in this thread:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...-question.html
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Amsoil or OEM fluid are the only two fluids i trust in the early C5 trans.

Amsoil.com, shop, Amsoil ATF. Get the pump as well from Amsoil, but be sure to pull the squiter tip out of the clear plastic tube. If you dont, theres a potential that it slips out of the tube and lands inside the trans and there no way to get it out if it does come off...ask me how i know....luckily it will be rebuilt in the spring anyway.
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Originally Posted by nickolbag
It works fine most of the time. When I'm ripping it down a drag strip I would like the car to shift as smooth as possible. Most agree synthetic helps create a smoother shift. If I were just street driving it I would stick with the stock stuff but cause of the drag racing I want synthetic.
Good lord bro, this isn't rocket science...I changed my fluid at 70k miles. The improvement in shifting was dramatic. Here's the shocker....I used what the manual calls for...Dextron III. Crazy, huh?

That being said, if I was auto-xing the car, I would run synthetic...only because I'd be pushing the car to it's limits....and exploring the top end of the rpm range for an extended period of time.

For street driving, and a few outings at the strip a year, the Dextron will not fail you.

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Mobile 1 is the paper blocker ring killer!! I used RP syncromax and have put about 8,000 mi that has included 13 chassis dyno pulls and about 17 strip passes.Operating just fine. Stock fluid,Amsoil,Royal purple are all good.Just getting clean fresh fluid will make a difference,,,changed mine at around 55,000 and that fluid was NASTY!!!
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My 2000 FRC had shifting problems using RP. I even bought an ebay Z06 tranny. Before I rebuilt and installed the close ratio, I replaced the fluid with the new Dexron which is fully synthetic. What a difference. Night and day. Back to normal. By the way, the Z06 tranny is using the Dexron 6 and working great.

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Amsoil.com, shop, Amsoil ATF. Get the pump as well from Amsoil, but be sure to pull the squiter tip out of the clear plastic tube.
thats what i used and it shifts nice and smooth at The Glen
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