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Stock 2003 Z06 35,000 miles... Was on my way home today when when traffic stopped several hundred yards in front of me. As I slowed, I down-shifted to 3rd, then to 2nd, popping the throttle to match revs. When I popped into 2nd, something let loose. Made an awful clatter. Luckily I was able to pull right into my neighborhood when I finally shut down. I was hopping it blew the top of a plug out but I'm afriad it's worse than that. It makes a very loud clatter up in the head area. To just turn the engine over sounds fine but once it tries to fire it clatters louldly. From what I've seen on the forum, maybe a broken rocker??? Any advice greatly appreciated.
Stock 2003 Z06 35,000 miles... Was on my way home today when when traffic stopped several hundred yards in front of me. As I slowed, I down-shifted to 3rd, then to 2nd, popping the throttle to match revs. When I popped into 2nd, something let loose. Made an awful clatter. Luckily I was able to pull right into my neighborhood when I finally shut down. I was hopping it blew the top of a plug out but I'm afriad it's worse than that. It makes a very loud clatter up in the head area. To just turn the engine over sounds fine but once it tries to fire it clatters louldly. From what I've seen on the forum, maybe a broken rocker??? Any advice greatly appreciated.
No way to find out other than getting a few tools and doing a little exploring. I would pull the valvecovers first, that will only take 10 minutes and you will be able to determine if it is a spring/rocker/pushrod/etc, or if you will need to dig a little deeper.
No way to find out other than getting a few tools and doing a little exploring. I would pull the valvecovers first, that will only take 10 minutes and you will be able to determine if it is a spring/rocker/pushrod/etc, or if you will need to dig a little deeper.
Yep, broken intake valve spring. I wonder what the chances of there being more damage down in the cylinder? Is there the possibility of the piston crashing up into that valve causing major damage to piston and cylinder wall? Outide of removing the head is there a way to tell if there is a broken valve down in that cylinder? Great group of knowledge here, thanks to all!
Probably nicked the piston, but doubtful you hurt it, but it's more possible to bend a valve. You'll know when you're changing the valve springs if you do it the way most do with compressed air in the cylinder. If you hurt the valve, you'll hear a bunch of air running into the intake or exhaust, depending on which spring you broke.
Excellent pictures! The only way you'll know about the piston is to pull the head. Might as well to be sure. No sense in doing the job half-way on a hope. I think of the old saying, better safe than sorry.
I would replace the valve springs on that cylinder and do a compression/air test.If it seemed ok ,replace the rest of the springs ,button her up and ride!
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Are those stock springs? A vettes with only 35,000 on it and you snapped one like that? Is this typical or heard of? Man that would worry the hell out of me if its that easy to snap something. Especially cause you weren't romping on it. How are you driving habits with it? Do you have any power adders? Are you the original owner?
I would replace the valve springs on that cylinder and do a compression/air test.If it seemed ok ,replace the rest of the springs ,button her up and ride!
If you really wanted to, suppose you could get / borrow one of those small cameras with a light on a flexible tube that you could insert into the spark plug hole and look around to see if there was any visable damage to piston. But I still agree that if the cylinder holds compression, you should be good to go.
If you really wanted to, suppose you could get / borrow one of those small cameras with a light on a flexible tube that you could insert into the spark plug hole and look around to see if there was any visable damage to piston. But I still agree that if the cylinder holds compression, you should be good to go.
Excellent idea. My concern is if there is a nick, cut or whatever on top of the piston, it'll still pressurize and run, but any damage, it would create a hot spot therefore resulting in future problems of a major magnitude. It would be nice if there was zero damage in there but the OP needs to look, one way or another.
Yep, broken intake valve spring. I wonder what the chances of there being more damage down in the cylinder? Is there the possibility of the piston crashing up into that valve causing major damage to piston and cylinder wall? Outide of removing the head is there a way to tell if there is a broken valve down in that cylinder? Great group of knowledge here, thanks to all!
Not to burst your bubble... but I'd pull the head and take a good look at that lifter too. By the marks on the bottom of the spring coils it looks like it was binding a little. As XtremeVette said... there's no reason for a stock, low mileage, adult driven, Z06 to break a spring like that.
pistons are very tough,far more likely to damage a valve than a piston,if the valve is ok more than likely the piston is fine.Actually is not uncommon at all for these springs to pop!
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Originally Posted by rebelheart
pistons are very tough,far more likely to damage a valve than a piston,if the valve is ok more than likely the piston is fine.Actually is not uncommon at all for these springs to pop!
really? damn....I am not that knowledgeable when it comes to the inner workings of the motor. I know the basics...that is about it. If it is that easy for a performance car such as the Z06 model of the vette Iam guessing it could apply to any pushrod engine car. How come by something so little (the spring) that it can cause that kind of damage. Let me rephrase that...how come there are no real safeguards when it comes to retainers or springs that would prevent a breakage or pop off of a nut or retainer seeing that the result is so detrimental to the engine? Seems like a little nut, retainer or spring that goes "pop" can cost you in excess of $3000 to get your motor redone? hmmmmm am I understanding this all correct? or is this really very uncommon and is why manufactures have no safeguard? Do they figure the stuff is built strong enough? Sorry for all the questions....iam a nub'e when it comes to engines and their internals.