TPIS vs ARH
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TPIS vs ARH
Currently have a set of older 1 3/4 TPIS headers with o/r x pipe with H/C and other bolt ons (mods in sig)putting down 462 rwhp and 404 rwtq on my 98 stock bottom end vert. 6 spd.
Thinking of switching to ARH 1 7/8 w no cats. What kind of power increase, if any, do you think I'll pick up?
Thinking of switching to ARH 1 7/8 w no cats. What kind of power increase, if any, do you think I'll pick up?
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I don't imagine you would see or feel a very large difference. American Racing makes a great header (probably best bang for the buck) but if you are looking for a guaranteed power gain you should look toward LG Pro Long Tubes. I know they are a little pricey but you get what you pay for. Just my $.02.
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I don't imagine you would see or feel a very large difference. American Racing makes a great header (probably best bang for the buck) but if you are looking for a guaranteed power gain you should look toward LG Pro Long Tubes. I know they are a little pricey but you get what you pay for. Just my $.02.
This is complete nonsense just my $.02.
While I think you will see gains not only from the increase in size but also from the design of our system. How much I'm not sureI would like to know more about your setup. I sent you a PM because I don't want to start a header war over some unfounded comments
Last edited by SteveDoten@ARH; Jan 29, 2009 at 10:48 PM.
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Currently have a set of older 1 3/4 TPIS headers with o/r x pipe with H/C and other bolt ons (mods in sig)putting down 462 rwhp and 404 rwtq on my 98 stock bottom end vert. 6 spd.
Thinking of switching to ARH 1 7/8 w no cats. What kind of power increase, if any, do you think I'll pick up?
Thinking of switching to ARH 1 7/8 w no cats. What kind of power increase, if any, do you think I'll pick up?
There is no comparison with fit/finish and performance.
I bet you pick up rwhp and rwtq. ( hard to quantify)
ARH headers are the best out there. Ask any serious racer that wants to go fast.
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This is complete nonsense
While I think you will see gains not only from the increase in size but also from the design of our system. How much I'm not sureI would like to know more about your setup. I sent you a PM because I don't want to start a header war over some unfounded comments
While I think you will see gains not only from the increase in size but also from the design of our system. How much I'm not sureI would like to know more about your setup. I sent you a PM because I don't want to start a header war over some unfounded comments
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This is complete nonsense
While I think you will see gains not only from the increase in size but also from the design of our system. How much I'm not sureI would like to know more about your setup. I sent you a PM because I don't want to start a header war over some unfounded comments
While I think you will see gains not only from the increase in size but also from the design of our system. How much I'm not sureI would like to know more about your setup. I sent you a PM because I don't want to start a header war over some unfounded comments
" I work in the daily grind and am with customers every day and the company i work for runs a mailling list where I see a lot of completely unfounded retarded statements about a product I work hard on, but it's not that bloody difficult to keep your 'tude to yourself.
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OP: To me the TPIS looks to be a decent setup, but i'm not a header guy, I'd talk to someone ARH (or another header vendor you feel comfortable discussing with) and describe yoursetup more fully and I"m sure they can help you decide if you're leaving some hp on the table.
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iced98lx, I don't see how Tom at ARH becomes an *** ?? He said 4 words : "this is complete nonsense" to be exact. How in the world does a general statement like that constitute your accusation 
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Burning Brakes
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I have TPIS on one and ARH on the other. The TPIS is starting to rust (5 years old). This spring I'm changing the TPIS for 1 7/8" ARH. Stainless Steel! If I get performance gains too all the better!
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I like your products, but please, don't be an *** on a public forum, what he stated was an opinion, and you're welcome to state yours as well. With that being said you should take a lesson in being nice to people, sure, it can be frustrating having people put down your product for no apparent reason, but by all means how hard is "Stepping up to a 1 7/8 header should provide some decent gains assuming the rest of your setup is built to breathe hard, which it probably is to real 462 RWHP out of heads and cams.. If you're interested in our products shoot me a pm or a phone call and I can tell you all about them and the gains you'll see! "
I work in the daily grind and am with customers every day and the company i work for runs a mailling list where I see a lot of completely unfounded retarded statements about a product I work hard on, but it's not that bloody difficult to keep your 'tude to yourself.
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" I work in the daily grind and am with customers every day and the company i work for runs a mailling list where I see a lot of completely unfounded retarded statements about a product I work hard on, but it's not that bloody difficult to keep your 'tude to yourself.
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I have installed dozens of ARH systems, over 15 ALONE at the Carlisle event
There is a reason why the "Heavy Hitters" amongst the Corvette tuner world use ARH, they work very well
There is a reason why the "Heavy Hitters" amongst the Corvette tuner world use ARH, they work very well
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for the record I have nothing against LG's product
What I'm objecting to in the post I refrenced is
"but if you are looking for a guaranteed power gain you should look toward LG Pro Long Tubes. I know they are a little pricey but you get what you pay for. Just my $.02. "
To me this says theres no guarenteed power and you don't get what you pay for. But I have them so everybody else should. And I'm cool with that but your opinion does'nt have to come at the expense of my product like this
"I just think that LG Pro's are tried and true"
Which means ours are'nt, we've been here over 3 years
Either way there are alot of good headers out there before ARH was here I used other companies with great results. I just think you can express your opinions without degrading another companies product. which is why I took it to PM. Because this board has enough header drama Just my $.02
What I'm objecting to in the post I refrenced is
"but if you are looking for a guaranteed power gain you should look toward LG Pro Long Tubes. I know they are a little pricey but you get what you pay for. Just my $.02. "
To me this says theres no guarenteed power and you don't get what you pay for. But I have them so everybody else should. And I'm cool with that but your opinion does'nt have to come at the expense of my product like this
"I just think that LG Pro's are tried and true"
Which means ours are'nt, we've been here over 3 years
Either way there are alot of good headers out there before ARH was here I used other companies with great results. I just think you can express your opinions without degrading another companies product. which is why I took it to PM. Because this board has enough header drama Just my $.02
Last edited by SteveDoten@ARH; Jan 29, 2009 at 10:55 PM.
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Wow! Didn't mean to step on any toes. I know several people with AR Headers and it is truly a great product. I just think that LG Pro's are tried and true, the best C5 headers on the market. He asked an opinion so I provided mine. That's also why I finished with "Just my $.02."
I edited my original post with just my $ .02
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Thanks for all your replies. I am aware of the header wars that have taken place on this forum and, by no means, did I intend to start another one. That is why I was VERY specific in asking to compare my TPIS headers to ARH, not another"Do you think LG or ARH's are better"
thread.
I do have to defend Tom@Arh, I don't think he was being an ***. I would probably react the same if someone who was running LG headers and never ran ARH's said that I probably wouldn't notice the difference.
I have been a member on this Forum since 2002, but as you can see I'm not a post *****. I read several threads to get insight on what others are doing and to find out what works and what doesn't.I have learned alot from several forum members, thats how I decided to mod my vert. But I have also seen way to much bashing of fellow forum members and vendors. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I think that in several instances, there is too much disrespect of one another.
I'm thankful that we have FREE access to a forum such as this so that we can all share one common thing, the Corvette.
Thanks everyone!!!
thread.
I do have to defend Tom@Arh, I don't think he was being an ***. I would probably react the same if someone who was running LG headers and never ran ARH's said that I probably wouldn't notice the difference.
I have been a member on this Forum since 2002, but as you can see I'm not a post *****. I read several threads to get insight on what others are doing and to find out what works and what doesn't.I have learned alot from several forum members, thats how I decided to mod my vert. But I have also seen way to much bashing of fellow forum members and vendors. Everyone has a right to their opinion, but I think that in several instances, there is too much disrespect of one another.
I'm thankful that we have FREE access to a forum such as this so that we can all share one common thing, the Corvette.
Thanks everyone!!!
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I have a set of 1 3/4 TPIS long tubes on my car and have had good luck with my dr gas off road x and ARH custom fabbed exhuast. But that was what was around back then, I will be upgrading when I can afford to a 1 7/8 setup as well and the guys over at ARH are TOP NOTCH, the best in the game.
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More than pleased with my ARH 1 3/4 set
