Clutch Disengadgement?
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From: Clemson Sc
Clutch Disengadgement?
Hey everyone i dont make very man threads on here, haha im a sponge i float around and try to absorb everything without to much input. I finally had a issue with my car so figured i would make a post to see if ayone has any ideas.
The car when i bought it was pretty much stock(miss those days) basic exhaust and intake setup. The car was fun to drive never a issue. now its nothig extreme its got a vindicator cam setup, all the basic bolt ons long tube yada yada. Its been one issue after another since then. NOTHING with vengeance or the cam, they have been awesome its just now the clutch gives me all kinds of issues. It wont disengadge or engadge properly you know. Did this before and vengeance replaced the fluid free of charge
haha and it worked fine for a while. Last night gave me the same shifting issue then fixed its self. Now its doing it again.
Recap:
Problems intermittent
Wont go into gear or come out pretty much at all when its acting up.
With the car in gear and the clutch pedal in the car still wants to pull.
Someone hit me up with my issue, haha
864-506-4908
Dusitnnealy@yahoo.com
Ill check back in a little while.
The car when i bought it was pretty much stock(miss those days) basic exhaust and intake setup. The car was fun to drive never a issue. now its nothig extreme its got a vindicator cam setup, all the basic bolt ons long tube yada yada. Its been one issue after another since then. NOTHING with vengeance or the cam, they have been awesome its just now the clutch gives me all kinds of issues. It wont disengadge or engadge properly you know. Did this before and vengeance replaced the fluid free of charge
haha and it worked fine for a while. Last night gave me the same shifting issue then fixed its self. Now its doing it again. Recap:
Problems intermittent
Wont go into gear or come out pretty much at all when its acting up.
With the car in gear and the clutch pedal in the car still wants to pull.
Someone hit me up with my issue, haha
864-506-4908
Dusitnnealy@yahoo.com
Ill check back in a little while.
Burning Brakes
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From: Rowlett, Texas
Well, to start the inexpensive way, do a search here on clutch fluid.
Tons of info here related to your exact problem.
One ray of hope:
The C5's are notorious for getting the fluid dirty and causing shifting problems, especially when the clutch gets hot.
As you may know, bleeding the slave cylinder is a major teardown job, so the best we can cheaply do is suck out the reservoir and replace what fluid we can on a regular basis (once a month is not too often).
If a few fluid changes like that don't help, you may be in for some big work to replace the slave cylinder and throwout.
DG
Tons of info here related to your exact problem.
One ray of hope:
The C5's are notorious for getting the fluid dirty and causing shifting problems, especially when the clutch gets hot.
As you may know, bleeding the slave cylinder is a major teardown job, so the best we can cheaply do is suck out the reservoir and replace what fluid we can on a regular basis (once a month is not too often).
If a few fluid changes like that don't help, you may be in for some big work to replace the slave cylinder and throwout.
DG
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From: Oak Harbor WA
Here comes the big debate about the Ranger method, turkey baster to clean the fluid and all that fine stuff that will likely not work for you.
Why?
You have added a decent amount of HP to this car. The clutch is the weakest link and needs to be eliminated. Time to buy something with more holding power.
Or you could modify your driving style and it will never bother you again.
Why?
You have added a decent amount of HP to this car. The clutch is the weakest link and needs to be eliminated. Time to buy something with more holding power.
Or you could modify your driving style and it will never bother you again.
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Ive done just that. Ive sucked the fluid out and got some nasty nasty stuff out of there. It is still not fixing the problem. The car just doesnt want to go into gear.
From what ive read the slave is self bleeding. Ive sucked all thenasty stuff out and now im putting new in. All i do is add new fluid and pump the pedal correct? I mean thats what im getting from everything ive read on here. Im going to also pull the line from the master to the slave and inspect it just to make sure no gunk or what ever is in there.
From what ive read the slave is self bleeding. Ive sucked all thenasty stuff out and now im putting new in. All i do is add new fluid and pump the pedal correct? I mean thats what im getting from everything ive read on here. Im going to also pull the line from the master to the slave and inspect it just to make sure no gunk or what ever is in there.
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^ buying the clutch is the least of the problems. i mean its at my buddies house right now with the new flywheel and all.
The clutch is not slipping though so that should have no bearing on this current issue I agree the clutch should be replaced if the car stays at current power level but its not. Im putting the car back to stock, this is not what i wanted out of the car.
I want this issue fixed if that means i have to pull the tranny then so be it but i would like to exhast all options before going that route.
Thanks in advance for all the info guys.
Dustin
The clutch is not slipping though so that should have no bearing on this current issue I agree the clutch should be replaced if the car stays at current power level but its not. Im putting the car back to stock, this is not what i wanted out of the car.
I want this issue fixed if that means i have to pull the tranny then so be it but i would like to exhast all options before going that route.
Thanks in advance for all the info guys.
Dustin
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From: Oak Harbor WA
Are you sure the linkage hasn't been tampered with and is out of adjustment? When I put in my new clutch/slave I found I could not get into 2nd until I tweaked the shifter a bit.
The tranny may have syncro issues? Others may be able to post more on this if you discribe exactly what you have done and what the car is doing....diagnosing over the web is.....a pain I think.
It is possible the slave cylinder isn't working any more. You wouldn't be the first to suffer from this. What does the pedal feel like, is there binding or any strange pressure changes from one end of travel?
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Melting Slicks
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From: Katy Tx
I had the exact symptooms...after "fixing itself" a few times, the clutch would not work at all (like half engaged).. had it towed and taken apart - slave had come apart..had to replace slave ($$$$)
and clean lots of fluid off clutch...likely should have replaced the clutch while in there but it had little wear so just cleaned it. Its worked perfect since then -- but the big $$ are getting to the clutch and slave of course. Wish I could be more encouraging.
and clean lots of fluid off clutch...likely should have replaced the clutch while in there but it had little wear so just cleaned it. Its worked perfect since then -- but the big $$ are getting to the clutch and slave of course. Wish I could be more encouraging.
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From: Clemson Sc
yeah tonight me and some buddies are going to look it over and see if its something else you. Clogged line? Maybe some misadjustments on the linkadge? also im going to see if i can get a wrench in there on bleeder to bleed out the fluid. If not then, well its clutch time and thats not what i want to do but what ever gotta do what i gotta do 
Drifting
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From: Littleton Colorado
I don't think so, there is only one line to the slave. So, no way for fluid to circulate. The only way to bleed the slave is to use the bleed screw on the slave, thats why its there.
Doing the Ranger method frequently will keep contaminates from reaching your slave, or at least slow them down. It will not remove contaminates from your slave or much beyond the master cylinder.
Doing the Ranger method frequently will keep contaminates from reaching your slave, or at least slow them down. It will not remove contaminates from your slave or much beyond the master cylinder.
Drifting
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From: Littleton Colorado
http://rpmtransmissions.com/files/c5...adjustment.pdf
The shifter is pretty simple.
KInd of a PIA, but taking off the inspection cover and seeing how the clutch is working would be good, i.e. having someone work the clutch as you watch it. You could also get an idea of how much material is left on it...
Good luck!
The shifter is pretty simple.
KInd of a PIA, but taking off the inspection cover and seeing how the clutch is working would be good, i.e. having someone work the clutch as you watch it. You could also get an idea of how much material is left on it...
Good luck!
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Sorry guys, i had a flat tire on my truck and had to host a meeting for the university car group. Ill know more tomorrow morning, again thanks for all the input. I will deffinitly be pulling the cover plate and seeing how everythings going down inside there. Maybe i can be lucky and get a wrench in side there to bleed the slave so maybe i can get some clutch action.
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Okay a little late on the up daes haha but i got the slave in, got the whole set up bleed and its still doing the same thing. Im going to bleed it all again just to make sure but im going to also start looking into some other options, like a new CLUTCH. God i should have just replaced it while i was in there.