Torque Tube Question
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Torque Tube Question
I just bought a Z06 torque tube and when I first got it, i noticed the tranny side of the TT is different than 2000 MN6 TT. The one I just received has a round plate with 12 or so bolts in it around where the shaft connects to the TT. Is this how the newer z06 style is?? as i thought it looked the same as my '00 TT which does not have any bolts showing. Is there a way to check to see which style the TT is??
I can post pictures when i get home. Thanks!!
I can post pictures when i get home. Thanks!!
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I just bought a Z06 torque tube and when I first got it, i noticed the tranny side of the TT is different than 2000 MN6 TT. The one I just received has a round plate with 12 or so bolts in it around where the shaft connects to the TT. Is this how the newer z06 style is?? as i thought it looked the same as my '00 TT which does not have any bolts showing. Is there a way to check to see which style the TT is??
I can post pictures when i get home. Thanks!!
I can post pictures when i get home. Thanks!!
If it is 8 bolts, you got yourself a pretty rare torque tube....Z06 with an A4....
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i thought there was some way to tell which style it was whether it be the older 10mm or newer 12mm from a marking somewhere on the outside of the TT...?
so i should open it up to check out the bushings??
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starting model year 2001 or 2002 (someone help me here...) all C5's got the Z06 torque tube; even the A4's. Basically the only change is the increased diameter of the rotating shaft.
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I don't think they upgraded the auto's though from what I've heard. I'll no more when I convert back to an auto and inspect the auto's TT.
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Question: Is the rear bell housing bolted to the torque tube or factory welded?
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Welded.
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GM PART # 88894025
CATEGORY: Propeller Shaft
PACK QTY: 1
CORE CHARGE: $0.00
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What I remember reading, that the 2001 Z06 TT inner driveshaft diameter increased from 55 to 63 mm. Then in 2002 ... all C5's got the larger 63mm inner driveshaft.
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hey ajg1915, in that parts manual on page 3-J18 is the diagram of the torque tube I originally had, and 3-J13 is the torque tube that was sold to me as a z06 TT. So i pretty much got screwed then huh??
i bought from someone on this forum, how do yall think i should go about handling this, when it was sold to me as a Z06 TT? it just sucks too, cuz i havent had my car for over 2 months(which is my DD) and ive been ridng with my wife and now after thinkin i finally found the z06 TT i didnt and im back to square one, actually worse off than before cuz i spent $400 bucks on a downgraded part, which has a broken bolt in the shifter hole too!!
i bought from someone on this forum, how do yall think i should go about handling this, when it was sold to me as a Z06 TT? it just sucks too, cuz i havent had my car for over 2 months(which is my DD) and ive been ridng with my wife and now after thinkin i finally found the z06 TT i didnt and im back to square one, actually worse off than before cuz i spent $400 bucks on a downgraded part, which has a broken bolt in the shifter hole too!!
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hey ajg1915, in that parts manual on page 3-J18 is the diagram of the torque tube I originally had, and 3-J13 is the torque tube that was sold to me as a z06 TT. So i pretty much got screwed then huh??
i bought from someone on this forum, how do yall think i should go about handling this, when it was sold to me as a Z06 TT? it just sucks too, cuz i havent had my car for over 2 months(which is my DD) and ive been ridng with my wife and now after thinkin i finally found the z06 TT i didnt and im back to square one, actually worse off than before cuz i spent $400 bucks on a downgraded part, which has a broken bolt in the shifter hole too!!
i bought from someone on this forum, how do yall think i should go about handling this, when it was sold to me as a Z06 TT? it just sucks too, cuz i havent had my car for over 2 months(which is my DD) and ive been ridng with my wife and now after thinkin i finally found the z06 TT i didnt and im back to square one, actually worse off than before cuz i spent $400 bucks on a downgraded part, which has a broken bolt in the shifter hole too!!
What's the number on the outside tube assembly ?
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here is the original one out of my 2000 FRC
and here is the one i was sold as a 2002 Z06 TT
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.00015 seconds later. That is NOT originally from a 2002 Z06. I'm not saying that it wasn't removed from a Z06 because it will fit and might have been installed from a previous owner. That is a 97-99 torque tube. Sorry
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Sorry to the OP.
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I was speaking about the rubber "donut" located about halfway between the two rubber couplers. I think it is either bonded or "fused" to the aluminum driveshaft. It is used on the MM6/M12 shafts due to the "whipping" action of the driveshaft when subjected to the more severe (and sudden) shock-loads of a manual trans car. The torque convertors in the M30 drive-line is more forgiving on the driveshaft and doesn't transmit the shockload as suddenly.
Did you find:
GM PART #88894016
CATEGORY: Propeller Shaft
PACK QTY: 1
CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $1,133.93
OUR PRICE: $825.50
I have an older parts CD ROM but the listings are good up to '02 and it shows two different drive shafts. Also in my '99 shop manual the illustration shows two different shafts inside the torque tube.
Did you find:
GM PART #88894016
CATEGORY: Propeller Shaft
PACK QTY: 1
CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $1,133.93
OUR PRICE: $825.50
I have an older parts CD ROM but the listings are good up to '02 and it shows two different drive shafts. Also in my '99 shop manual the illustration shows two different shafts inside the torque tube.
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St. Jude Donor '08
I was speaking about the rubber "donut" located about halfway between the two rubber couplers. I think it is either bonded or "fused" to the aluminum driveshaft. It is used on the MM6/M12 shafts due to the "whipping" action of the driveshaft when subjected to the more severe (and sudden) shock-loads of a manual trans car. The torque convertors in the M30 drive-line is more forgiving on the driveshaft and doesn't transmit the shockload as suddenly.
Did you find:
GM PART #88894016
CATEGORY: Propeller Shaft
PACK QTY: 1
CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $1,133.93
OUR PRICE: $825.50
I have an older parts CD ROM but the listings are good up to '02 and it shows two different drive shafts. Also in my '99 shop manual the illustration shows two different shafts inside the torque tube.
Did you find:
GM PART #88894016
CATEGORY: Propeller Shaft
PACK QTY: 1
CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $1,133.93
OUR PRICE: $825.50
I have an older parts CD ROM but the listings are good up to '02 and it shows two different drive shafts. Also in my '99 shop manual the illustration shows two different shafts inside the torque tube.
about the center rubber donut on the manual tranny torque tubes vs the auto's who don't have one.Not sure about the shafts you're talking about though.