Why does this car give me so many problems??
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Why does this car give me so many problems??
The dealership just called me back and told me they are going to charge me 700+ to install a new column actuator as well as a relay in my car. Recall variation 04006 was done in 04. Is the actuator easy to replace? Should this be covered if I keep on customer service? Please give me some advice. I get the pull key and wait 10 sec as well as the service column lock. I've tried to column lock bypass but that will only prevent a probem not fix it. I've tried removing the fuses, disconnecting the battery, jumping 87 to 30 pin, all with no luck. I have a 03 6speed. The only thing performed in 04 was a reprogram of the ecm.
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The dealership just called me back and told me they are going to charge me 700+ to install a new column actuator as well as a relay in my car. Recall variation 04006 was done in 04. Is the actuator easy to replace? Should this be covered if I keep on customer service? Please give me some advice. I get the pull key and wait 10 sec as well as the service column lock. I've tried to column lock bypass but that will only prevent a probem not fix it. I've tried removing the fuses, disconnecting the battery, jumping 87 to 30 pin, all with no luck. I have a 03 6speed. The only thing performed in 04 was a reprogram of the ecm.
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The dealership just called me back and told me they are going to charge me 700+ to install a new column actuator as well as a relay in my car. Recall variation 04006 was done in 04. Is the actuator easy to replace? Should this be covered if I keep on customer service? Please give me some advice. I get the pull key and wait 10 sec as well as the service column lock. I've tried to column lock bypass but that will only prevent a probem not fix it. I've tried removing the fuses, disconnecting the battery, jumping 87 to 30 pin, all with no luck. I have a 03 6speed. The only thing performed in 04 was a reprogram of the ecm.
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For the 2001 and newer GM did MUCH more than just replace the ECL lock plate. If that was all they did then having recall version 04006C done to the MN6 M12 cars would cure all the Column Lock problems out there and it doesn't. There are plenty of cars with that recall that still experience the Pull Key and wait 10 seconds and/or Service Column Lock error messages. True the column does't lock any more but they can experience the fuel shutoff.........
Amen brother,,, Mine had 2 recalls done over a period of years,including the infamous "computer reprogram"!!The steering wheel could be turned with the key put. After about 7 months of occasional random PULL KEY WAIT 10 SECONDS,, She bit me with the 10 second followed by service column lock with the now programed 2mph fuel cut off. Had to have it towed home where I installed the CLB I had purchased and just hadn't gotten around to.Been motoring carefree ever since. DO THE CLB YOURSELF and politely tell them to shove their $700 repair (that STILL won't cure the problem),
where the sun don't shine!!!
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From: Katy Tx
I had mine done at the dealership last June - WAY past the 2004 "cutoff" at zero cost to me. I surely
should have done the CLB before the problem though!
GM should be paying the dealer for this so its still a money-maker for the dealer - may need to
talk to the service manager. If the 4006 had already been done once on your car, they likely will Not pay for it again.
should have done the CLB before the problem though!
GM should be paying the dealer for this so its still a money-maker for the dealer - may need to
talk to the service manager. If the 4006 had already been done once on your car, they likely will Not pay for it again.
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The aftermarket column lock bypass relays leave the actuator disconnected, and even the GM Harness K will work with the actuator disconnected. GM leaves it in the circuit most likely to provide the correct resistance to circuits in the BCM, but the system should still work without it.
I would press to have the dealer replace the defective GM Harness K relay and leave the actuator disconnected. I assume you have had the lockplate removed as part of a recall, so that the column cannot physically lock. If not, then the dealer did not complete the last recall.
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For the 2001 and newer A4's GM did MUCH more than just replace the ECL lock plate. If that was all they did then having recall version 04006C done to the MN6 M12 cars would cure all the Column Lock problems out there and it doesn't. There are plenty of cars with that recall that still experience the Pull Key and wait 10 seconds and/or Service Column Lock error messages. True the column does't lock any more but they can experience the fuel shutoff.........
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The dealership just called me back and told me they are going to charge me 700+ to install a new column actuator as well as a relay in my car. Recall variation 04006 was done in 04. Is the actuator easy to replace? Should this be covered if I keep on customer service? Please give me some advice. I get the pull key and wait 10 sec as well as the service column lock. I've tried to column lock bypass but that will only prevent a probem not fix it. I've tried removing the fuses, disconnecting the battery, jumping 87 to 30 pin, all with no luck. I have a 03 6speed. The only thing performed in 04 was a reprogram of the ecm.
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I am getting the fuel cut off. I had recall version 04006 (first variation). It was done in 2004 prior to the nhspa required the other variations of the recall. Does recall 04006 do anything else other then reprogram the ecl? Because that's all that were on my notes when i called chevy asking about my recall. Thanks for all the help. I'm going to sign up as a member asap.
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sterring lock
I had the same problem so I took my 02-6speed in to a dealer and they fixed it for free. 9 months later problem re occuried while out of town and now i was in a jam. I wiggled steering wheel forcefully back and forth praying air bag would not deploy and to my surprise sterring unlocked it self after about 10-15 seconds of this . Eveery 2-3 weeks problem kept reoccuring and i solved it each time using this jiggling motion. I took it to a different dealer ship and explained to them the problem and i intenionaally did not tell them what other dealer had done. They fixed problem and 6 years later not one incident of that steering column wait 10 second pull key drama.
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I dont have the k harness installed, and sometimes the column will lock when i pull the key out. I've never had one problem with the column not unlocked once I put the key back in. Am I missing something when i say i dont have anything behind my bcm? Its the silver piece in my picture correct? You can see behind the bcm and there isnt one cable.
And I called the customer service number for gm and she pulled up my service and said the variation was 04006. Im assuming that means its the first variation correct? Or do I have to go to the dealership? I thought they would both have the same info.
And I called the customer service number for gm and she pulled up my service and said the variation was 04006. Im assuming that means its the first variation correct? Or do I have to go to the dealership? I thought they would both have the same info.
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