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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 05:30 PM
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My HVAC readout has been on 69 F for months. I replaced the air temp sensor once and that did not cure the problem. The Ac and heater have worked fine with no problems. I am prepping the car for sale and can not stand to have something not work properly. Today I bought another air temp sensor thinking the last one might have been bad. I plugged it in and now the LED reads -35 F I hate that worst than 69 F and now the A/C won't come on. It's a balmy 70 and I may have a buyer coming.

Do you think it may be the wiring or is there something else in the system that will affect the readout?

Thanks for your help and again I apologize for asking instead of being able to search for it.
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Sorry to have to ask but the search isn't working for me now.


My HVAC readout has been on 69 F for months. I replaced the air temp sensor once and that did not cure the problem. The Ac and heater have worked fine with no problems. I am prepping the car for sale and can not stand to have something not work properly. Today I bought another air temp sensor thinking the last one might have been bad. I plugged it in and now the LED reads -35 F I hate that worst than 69 F and now the A/C won't come on. It's a balmy 70 and I may have a buyer coming.

Do you think it may be the wiring or is there something else in the system that will affect the readout?

Thanks for your help and again I apologize for asking instead of being able to search for it.
Checked anything with a DMM? It's just a thermistor, and you can bench test it to make sure the resistance value is consistent with the ambient temp. You may have a high resistance ground at the connector.....check it with a DMM.

In short, with the a/c on you should have:

pin A - 5 volts
pin B - Ground (make note of the resistance value)


Bench testing the sensor....it ranges from 242K ohms at -40 degrees F to 2K ohms at 140 degrees F.
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Thanks for the info...

I am getting 997 it's about 60 F

215 on the ground and 5.15 v on pin A with the HVAC on but no A/C compressor




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Checked anything with a DMM? It's just a thermistor, and you can bench test it to make sure the resistance value is consistent with the ambient temp. You may have a high resistance ground at the connector.....check it with a DMM.

In short, with the a/c on you should have:

pin A - 5 volts
pin B - Ground (make note of the resistance value)


Bench testing the sensor....it ranges from 242K ohms at -40 degrees F to 2K ohms at 140 degrees F.
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Thanks for the info...

I am getting 997 it's about 60 F

215 on the ground and 5.15 v on pin A with the HVAC on but no A/C compressor
215 ohms is way to high on the ground. The ground itself is back at the control head, but it goes to a splice first S215. The voltage at pin A is good. So your just looking at a ground issue. I'll see if I can find a location for S215.
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S215 is in the instrument panel harness. It seems unlikely for it to go bad, since it's not exposed to the elements. Make sure the connector is not corroded, and you are making good contact. If the splice was bad, other things would be affected i.e. door actuators, inside temp sensor, etc.
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S215 is in the instrument panel harness. It seems unlikely for it to go bad, since it's not exposed to the elements. Make sure the connector is not corroded, and you are making good contact. If the splice was bad, other things would be affected i.e. door actuators, inside temp sensor, etc.

I came up with SP202 which grounds (G202) at the same location I think that you are talking about, at the passenger "A" pillar. I think your right that other systems would be affected at this point. Since I have the voltage I will run a temp ground from the sensor and see what happens. I suspect the connector may be the culprit since I can shake and bang the connector and get a different temp reading, still not high enough to kick on the A/C.

I really appreciate your help. Once you started naming things I was able to go into eSI and find the schematics and such. I had put a tech 2 on it earlier and seen the open circuit and voltage but didn't know what I was looking at yet.

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I came up with SP202 which grounds (G202) at the same location I think that you are talking about, at the passenger "A" pillar. I think your right that other systems would be affected at this point. Since I have the voltage I will run a temp ground from the sensor and see what happens. I suspect the connector may be the culprit since I can shake and bang the connector and get a different temp reading, still not high enough to kick on the A/C.

I really appreciate your help. Once you started naming things I was able to go into eSI and find the schematics and such. I had put a tech 2 on it earlier and seen the open circuit and voltage but didn't know what I was looking at yet.

Thanks
No problem. Actually, if you look at the schematic, it does not go to a splice pack, rather, it goes directly to a splice (S215) which resides under the instrument panel, and then grounds at the control head. Sounds like you are on the right track though. Let me know what happens.
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I took the plug apart and found the corrosion at the half way point. I could get good ground reading about half way up the connection then nothing. I scavanged some other plug parts and rebuilt the plug and she is all better now reading just about dead on.

Thanks for the help. I found in eSI the reading values for a lot of the componants so now I am dangerous.

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I took the plug apart and found the corrosion at the half way point. I could get good ground reading about half way up the connection then nothing. I scavanged some other plug parts and rebuilt the plug and she is all better now reading just about dead on.

Thanks for the help. I found in eSI the reading values for a lot of the componants so now I am dangerous.

Well done sir
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