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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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Anybody ever had this happen?

Had a constant reading on dash of outside temperature of 53 degrees even though it was 65 plus in New York. Put in new sensor now reading is constant 58 degrees.

Nothing disconnected or moved in engine bay.

Thanks for any suggestions.
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Anybody ever had this happen?

Had a constant reading on dash of outside temperature of 53 degrees even though it was 65 plus in New York. Put in new sensor now reading is constant 58 degrees.

Nothing disconnected or moved in engine bay.

Thanks for any suggestions.
Check the reistance to ground at the connector itself.
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thanks. will try it today.
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Yes, measure the impedance from the connector to ground. One pin should be grounded (0 ohms) and the other should be almost open circuit (high ohms). It's likely that your connector is corroded and either the pins in the connector are shorted or one of them is open. If you can't fix the connector it's easy to replace.
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Yes, measure the impedance from the connector to ground. One pin should be grounded (0 ohms) and the other should be almost open circuit (high ohms). It's likely that your connector is corroded and either the pins in the connector are shorted or one of them is open. If you can't fix the connector it's easy to replace.
Impedance? In a DC circuit?
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After installing the new sensor did you take the car for a drive? You need to drive a couple of miles before it starts reading a new value.

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went for a short run - maybe 3 miles.
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Impedance? In a DC circuit?
Uhh yes. If there's a short it will show 0 ohms. BTW, that circuit uses a varying impedance of the temperature sensor (thermistor) to determine temperature by measuring the voltage drop across the sensor compared to a reference voltage. If the impedance at the connector is shorted or opened system will detect this condition and the temperature will default to 58F.
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Originally Posted by JC in XTC5
Uhh yes. If there's a short it will show 0 ohms. BTW, that circuit uses a varying impedance of the temperature sensor (thermistor) to determine temperature by measuring the voltage drop across the sensor compared to a reference voltage. If the impedance at the connector is shorted or opened system will detect this condition and the temperature will default to 58F.
I think its 69.....the default.
Chances are the plug is corroded/rusted.
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Originally Posted by JC in XTC5
Uhh yes. If there's a short it will show 0 ohms. BTW, that circuit uses a varying impedance of the temperature sensor (thermistor) to determine temperature by measuring the voltage drop across the sensor compared to a reference voltage. If the impedance at the connector is shorted or opened system will detect this condition and the temperature will default to 58F.
Well, I guess I better crack open my old textbooks, because all the electrical engineering courses I took referred to impedance as the dampening of current in an AC circuit, not DC. Even though the unit of measure (ohms) is the same for resistance and impedance.
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Impedance? In a DC circuit?


Originally Posted by JC in XTC5
Uhh yes. If there's a short it will show 0 ohms. BTW, that circuit uses a varying impedance of the temperature sensor (thermistor) to determine temperature by measuring the voltage drop across the sensor compared to a reference voltage. If the impedance at the connector is shorted or opened system will detect this condition and the temperature will default to 58F.
I think he was questioning the use of the word impedance. AC circuits have impedance which includes resistance plus the effects of reactance of capacitance and inductance to an AC current. A DC circuit only has resistance as capacitance and inductance do not react to a DC current (except on initial closing of the circuit).

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Originally Posted by gpracer1
I think its 69.....the default.
Chances are the plug is corroded/rusted.
Actually, 56F is the default for open/short as per service manual.

Also, excuse my use of impedance . Many of us took electrical engineering - thanks for the correction.
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I'm far from being an electrical guy but know that many of these glitches seem to be caused by a bad ground.
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