ATI----- DO IT YOURSELF?
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Melting Slicks
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ATI----- DO IT YOURSELF?
have they come up with a way to key the crank? any special electrical tools needed? seems like a day job (long day but that's OK) Will a stock A4 handle the power? Will the drive shafts handle the power?
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[Modified by aces, 9:52 PM 2/6/2002]
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From: God's Replica
Re: ATI----- DO IT YOURSELF? (aces)
they "say" you don't need to key the crank. I would however. Have to take the crank out. PTI has a way to do it with the crank still in there, but they are mum on any detail :rolleyes: I betit has been done before....
bunch of f=body guy have another way to do it with cutting the wasjer down... go to ls1tech and look for blackbird t/a (sp?)...
A4 will handle it , but not for to long.
Shafts will handle it. :cheers:
bunch of f=body guy have another way to do it with cutting the wasjer down... go to ls1tech and look for blackbird t/a (sp?)...
A4 will handle it , but not for to long.
Shafts will handle it. :cheers:
Melting Slicks
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Re: ATI----- DO IT YOURSELF? (aces)
Just ordered my kit thru a race shop in overlandpark, KS where ATI is located.
In fact that's where ATI did their dynoing of the kit. I was told ATI had found a co. that will keyway the crank. They will soon offer it as an option on their kit & those that already have theirs installed can also get it done.
Hope it's not just hogwash!... They told me after I ordered my kit though...so it couldn't have been just empty marketing scheme.
In fact that's where ATI did their dynoing of the kit. I was told ATI had found a co. that will keyway the crank. They will soon offer it as an option on their kit & those that already have theirs installed can also get it done.
Hope it's not just hogwash!... They told me after I ordered my kit though...so it couldn't have been just empty marketing scheme.
7th Gear
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Re: ATI----- DO IT YOURSELF? (boblackhardtop)
The balancer should not need to be keyed to the crank as the Procharger system runs off of the factory accessory belt. Under load the 6 ib belt will start slipping before the balancer would slip. That being said, ATI Procharger is not going to offer this service but ATI balancers does offer a way to lock the balancer to the crank by way of dowel pins. I would contact them if you plan on adding an external blower drive (other supercharger systems maybe) or are going for extreme power levels.
Chris
Chris
Melting Slicks
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Re: ATI----- DO IT YOURSELF? (Injected65)
Welcome to the CF Chris. I guess I must have misunderstood what you were telling me the other day.
Got my headers, still don't know what I'm gonna use. :confused: LT belanger or Shorties ? I figure I'll have plenty of power w/ the SC & probably won't miss the diff. The important thing's I'll save $400- 500. Anybody, your 02 is appreciated.
Got my headers, still don't know what I'm gonna use. :confused: LT belanger or Shorties ? I figure I'll have plenty of power w/ the SC & probably won't miss the diff. The important thing's I'll save $400- 500. Anybody, your 02 is appreciated.
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Re: ATI----- DO IT YOURSELF? (Injected65)
The balancer should not need to be keyed to the crank as the Procharger system runs off of the factory accessory belt. Under load the 6 ib belt will start slipping before the balancer would slip. That being said, ATI Procharger is not going to offer this service but ATI balancers does offer a way to lock the balancer to the crank by way of dowel pins. I would contact them if you plan on adding an external blower drive (other supercharger systems maybe) or are going for extreme power levels.
Chris
Chris
Am I correct in stating that if the balancer slips the timing changes on a crank fired ignition?
Will the output shafts be able to handle the power also?
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Pro
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Re: ATI----- DO IT YOURSELF? (aces)
Am I correct in stating that if the balancer slips the timing changes on a crank fired ignition?
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Re: ATI----- DO IT YOURSELF? (aces)
This is going to sound horrible, but what does "key the crank" mean? I know this is probably like asking what are tires, but for some reason I don't know what the phrase refers to. An explanation would be greatly appreciated.
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Melting Slicks
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Re: ATI----- DO IT YOURSELF? (LTD)
most engines have a slot in the crankshaft and the harmonic balancer that hold a "key"
the key fits in both slots
this keeps the balancer from turning on the crank
the key fits in both slots
this keeps the balancer from turning on the crank
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Re: ATI----- DO IT YOURSELF? (boblackhardtop)
Welcome to the CF Chris. I guess I must have misunderstood what you were telling me the other day.
Got my headers, still don't know what I'm gonna use. :confused: LT belanger or Shorties ? I figure I'll have plenty of power w/ the SC & probably won't miss the diff. The important thing's I'll save $400- 500. Anybody, your 02 is appreciated.
Got my headers, still don't know what I'm gonna use. :confused: LT belanger or Shorties ? I figure I'll have plenty of power w/ the SC & probably won't miss the diff. The important thing's I'll save $400- 500. Anybody, your 02 is appreciated.
As for the keying of the crank, from what I have found out the ATI (balancer ppl) have come up with a way of drilling a hole partially in the crank and partially in the pulley and then you tap a dowell pin in place to lock the two from moving. Pardon me if I am not totally accurate in my decription as I have yet to see one in person. The main advantage to this is the crank does not have to come out of the motor!
Later,
Chris