Long /Short Tubes
Race Director
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From: Palm City Florida
Re: Long /Short Tubes (GLENN43)
Don't make the same mistake I made...
Headers long or short are expensive...and only worth about 10hp
For the same money even a GM Hot CAM will give you gobs of giddy enjoyment.
Headers long or short are expensive...and only worth about 10hp
For the same money even a GM Hot CAM will give you gobs of giddy enjoyment.
Drifting
Joined: Jul 2000
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From: Stockholm
Re: Long /Short Tubes (GLENN43)
I do not know the difference between short/long headers in hp but headers make a big difference on a head/cam modified, 383 stroker or a 427 C5R engine. I've seen figures in the 10hp area on a stock engine as said before in this post so I would start with other mods if you have a stock engine.
The real gains will be seen on modified engine.
:cheers:
The real gains will be seen on modified engine.
:cheers:
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From: My barber didn't know when to quit... Do you?
Re: Long /Short Tubes (seanr)
Go long tube, you will see better gains, really the only downsides of long tubes are that they are more expensive to put in, and they hang a little lower (should not be a problem).
Go for the long tubes!
Go for the long tubes!
Pro
Joined: Mar 2001
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From: Houston, Republic of Texas
Re: Long /Short Tubes (GLENN43)
If you want to do it yourself, get shorties. My B&B's dropped right in from the top and bolted up easily. No cutting or welding. Nice way to spend a Spring mod-day. Max hp gain about 10-ish. Wouldn't spend more that $500 though for ceramic coated headers though unless you're really going to Stage 2 on the heads and cam.
For max hp and max cost go with LT headers. But be prepared to go to a shop that can weld them up at the cats or other creative connection methods. Max hp gain 10-20.
Just my 2 cents...
Good luck whichever you choose.
For max hp and max cost go with LT headers. But be prepared to go to a shop that can weld them up at the cats or other creative connection methods. Max hp gain 10-20.
Just my 2 cents...
Good luck whichever you choose.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Apr 2001
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Re: Long /Short Tubes (Houston_Z_Man)
I don't regret doing LT headers, but I did expect more HP!
With an X pipe and LT headers I got 12.4 rwhp and 16.1 rwt
These are dyno #'s taken in the winter, which i'm investigating because of the high correction factor. I've dyno'd twice this winter and have had a cf of .95 each time. but in the summer with 80 degree temps we get a cf of 100.
So maybe the real gain was more like 16 and 20. I think the headers allow for some tuning gains and would be a must with heads/cam.
With an X pipe and LT headers I got 12.4 rwhp and 16.1 rwt
These are dyno #'s taken in the winter, which i'm investigating because of the high correction factor. I've dyno'd twice this winter and have had a cf of .95 each time. but in the summer with 80 degree temps we get a cf of 100.
So maybe the real gain was more like 16 and 20. I think the headers allow for some tuning gains and would be a must with heads/cam.
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Re: Long /Short Tubes (wallstAL)
From what I have seen, our TTS Long Tube customers have all gained 15rwhp or more. One of them actually gained 23rwhp with the install of TTS Long Tube headers. Perhaps the smaller diamter tubes of the TTS are better for a stock displacement, stock head/cam car??? :D