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Old Aug 25, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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if i was going to drop in an LS3 crate engine to replace my LS1 what do i need to replace or make it work. i have an A4.
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if i was going to drop in an LS3 crate engine to replace my LS1 what do i need to replace or make it work. i have an A4.
For starters you will have to change the crank. The reluctor wheel has a different amount of teeth.
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For starters you will have to change the crank. The reluctor wheel has a different amount of teeth.
The reluctor wheel can't be changed?
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Originally Posted by Bad97ta
if i was going to drop in an LS3 crate engine to replace my LS1 what do i need to replace or make it work. i have an A4.
I ordered my LS3 with the same reluctor wheel as an LS1/6, from LME. It works great, you will also need to order an adaptor cable. Pretty simple ,as long as the +12 and ground are not reversed in the cable, as mine was.
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was it worth it
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I ordered my LS3 with the same reluctor wheel as an LS1/6, from LME. It works great, you will also need to order an adaptor cable. Pretty simple ,as long as the +12 and ground are not reversed in the cable, as mine was.
I have been thinking about this sort of a swap for a while. If it was basically stock how much did it run you? How complete was it and how much of the LS1 peripherals worked? The LS3 has the different style injectors right? Are the engine electronics compatible?

I was thinking if my LS1 ever calved on me I would go for an LS6 so that I wouldn't have to buy a bunch of addional smaller parts to make it work. Or better yet an LS6 shortblock with some decent aftermarket heads.
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I have been thinking about this sort of a swap for a while. If it was basically stock how much did it run you? How complete was it and how much of the LS1 peripherals worked? The LS3 has the different style injectors right? Are the engine electronics compatible?

I was thinking if my LS1 ever calved on me I would go for an LS6 so that I wouldn't have to buy a bunch of addional smaller parts to make it work. Or better yet an LS6 shortblock with some decent aftermarket heads.
I am very pleased with my LS3 from LME, they were a pleasure to work with. I purchased this through ECS. I have AFR 225's ported by Tony Mamo about 10/15 cfm above stock. Ported fast 90/90 (tony Mamo), methanol, 1 7/8" Kooks 9.2:1 c/r, LG Big 3 exhaust, hi flow cats, A&A, old style intercooler, D1SC 3.75" 8 rib, stock dia. damper, 15 lbs boost. SD tuning, 858rwhp 780 rwtq. Then I fixed belt slip with a stronger tensioner I got from Arun, was not able to get traction on the dyno. I am very pleased, however traction is a problem. I have tried Nitto's, BFG Gforce and Toyo R888's. I like the R888's best overall.
I do not recall the price for the short block, however I thought it to be a good price for quality parts and labor.

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Originally Posted by Bad97ta
was it worth it
I can't imagine that it's your most cost effective option. What are your goals? That's ultimately what we need to know to to know.
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Originally Posted by JonLT4CE
For starters you will have to change the crank. The reluctor wheel has a different amount of teeth.
The reluctor wheel issue had been a problem but it is now solved with an electronic converter box so no problem.

I think it would be a cost effective way to go considering you can sell your old engine for some cash too. Lot of hot rod guys like the LS1 for builds. Would cost less than a turbocharger or supercharger and probably a good set of heads and a cam with labor.

And a new crate is under warrantee.
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We have been doing LS3 conversions with the electrical cross over boxes from LPE, they work great. Good luck with your build!
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
We have been doing LS3 conversions with the electrical cross over boxes from LPE, they work great. Good luck with your build!
how much do yall typically charge for those conversions?
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Originally Posted by DOUG @ ECS
We have been doing LS3 conversions with the electrical cross over boxes from LPE, they work great. Good luck with your build!
Doug,
I see alot more guys looking at the LS3 convertion. Maybe you can write up all the little parts they need to order, and about how much in a big ball park range ECS would charge for the swap.

Im selfish. When my motor goes, that's the direction im looking at also.
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to answer your question on what my goals are.

since i have over 100k on the motor and trans, i think that i will add to much eventually to my old LS1. The problem is that i always will want more! so my goal now will change when i get used to the mods that i have made.
LS3 swap gives a warranty, and more room to build on later
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im planing on an LS3 when my engine goes too
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nuck
I have been thinking about this sort of a swap for a while. If it was basically stock how much did it run you? How complete was it and how much of the LS1 peripherals worked? The LS3 has the different style injectors right? Are the engine electronics compatible?

I was thinking if my LS1 ever calved on me I would go for an LS6 so that I wouldn't have to buy a bunch of addional smaller parts to make it work. Or better yet an LS6 shortblock with some decent aftermarket heads.
I was thinking the same thing
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Me. too. I like the C5 body more than the C6, and the idea of an LS3, with the right peripherals, like headers, a tune, half shafts, is appealing.
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Old Sep 30, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JonLT4CE
For starters you will have to change the crank. The reluctor wheel has a different amount of teeth.
Glad your not my mechanic! How about you read the question and stop trying to impress with big greasy mechanic talk....

Going to need new Muffler bearings as well, and the canooter valve has a completly different tune for the LS3 that it does on the LS1..

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will it bolt up to my tranny? i thought i had read somewhere that it wont work. i cant find the thread where i read it
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