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Old Aug 30, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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I've noticed since a June HPDE that when I accelerate out of a corner, I get the !brake light coming on. If I just corner hard, it doesn't happen. I've also seen it in just pure acceleration in a straight line from a stop. Happens in Comp mode or with everything turned on; have not tested with system all off.

Is this EBCM rebuild time?? What happens when you need one of those?

For sure, this was not happening in the 2+ years I had the car before June.

Edit: Just checked, there are no codes. I did but some old brake pads on after I got back in June, the rears only have a little meat left. Would that cause a problem?

Thanks for any opinions!!

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I would turn off both the T/C & Active Handling assists, simulate the action you described, and see if it still exists. It sounds like your Active handling is trying to engage and the current brake pads may not be sufficient for it to provide the necessary handling corrections...also check front wheel sensors and related connections.... that also could be the source..
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I would turn off both the T/C & Active Handling assists, simulate the action you described, and see if it still exists. It sounds like your Active handling is trying to engage and the current brake pads may not be sufficient for it to provide the necessary handling corrections...also check front wheel sensors and related connections.... that also could be the source..
Thanks for the reply! I'm sure it is AH coming on, but let's say it's much, much more intrusive than it should be (or was before)!! I'll do that on the way home just as a data point though. As a rule, I never drive on the street w/all AH off.

What would I check on the connnections--mechanical intergity or can I only find issues w/ a resistence or current draw check?
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I would turn off both the T/C & Active Handling assists, simulate the action you described, and see if it still exists. It sounds like your Active handling is trying to engage and the current brake pads may not be sufficient for it to provide the necessary handling corrections...also check front wheel sensors and related connections.... that also could be the source..
Turned the system all off and I still get the !brake light in the turn during acceleration! WTF!!?? My only guess would be to bleed all the brakes and hope for the best. Again, no codes.
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Make sure the master cylinder is full of brake fluid. That is usually the indicator that comes on when the fluid gets low.. especially on hard cornering or acceleration. Good Luck..
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Make sure the master cylinder is full of brake fluid. That is usually the indicator that comes on when the fluid gets low.. especially on hard cornering or acceleration. Good Luck..
There is fluid up to the 1/2 way point(the seam) in the reservoir. I'm thinking I should flush the system and see what happens with it.

Can anyone tell me if I'm not using brakes and the AH is off (all TC off) why the brakes would even be involved cornering? I tried this again this morning and got the !brake light in the 2 corners I tried. The light comes on at when I'm at peak g's or just after. I'll have to double check but I don't think I've ever seen it when I'm actually on the brakes.
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Make sure the master cylinder is full of brake fluid. That is usually the indicator that comes on when the fluid gets low.. especially on hard cornering or acceleration. Good Luck..
Tried again tonight and straight line acceleration gives me the light in a perfectly straight line w/all traction control off (or on--tried that too).

I'll try adding fluid to reservoir but it really is not low.

Is there an accelerometer that would set off the brake light even if braking and AH are not active??
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in my zo6 it always says active handling across the bottom of the instrument cluster when it is being obtrusive. I would top the brake fluid up before i got into a long drawn out diagnostic. On other cars i have worked on they will turn the light on while cornering even before it gets half low on fluid in the master cylinder.
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one other thing you might try is unplugging the sensor on the master cylinder and see if the light on the dash comes on. if so put a paper clip (jumper wire) across the terminals and go for a spirited test drive and see if the light is out.. if so you know it is fluid sensor related. if not you know to go elsewhere.
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one other thing you might try is unplugging the sensor on the master cylinder and see if the light on the dash comes on. if so put a paper clip (jumper wire) across the terminals and go for a spirited test drive and see if the light is out.. if so you know it is fluid sensor related. if not you know to go elsewhere.
I'll try that this weekend. Topping of the fluid is easier than eating apple pie. The wire would be next. I don't see any AH message w/this just the !brake light same as if the ebrake is engaged. But the light just flashes for on instant during acceleration, then it's gone.
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When my brake light appeared (only under acceleration), the problem was that the fluid was slightly low in the master cylinder. The fluid was not below the "MIN" line, but was close to it.

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When my brake light appeared (only under acceleration), the problem was that the fluid was slightly low in the master cylinder. The fluid was not below the "MIN" line, but was close to it.

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BTW--that was it--just really have to go near the max line when you fill the master. :o
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