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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 01:20 PM
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What are the specs on the Comp Cam thunder cam. I was told it was 224 561 112. Is this correct? :confused:
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 01:24 PM
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I thought the Thunder Cam was 220/220 114
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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What are the specs on the Comp Cam thunder cam. I was told it was 224 561 112. Is this correct? :confused:
I believe that is correct, I saw guys on ls1.com using that grind.

I thought the Thunder Cam was 220/220 114
Yes, that is true for one grind. There is also a 224 that some guys are using.

That is close to the MTI B1 Comp Cam (221/221 558/558 114), the T1 Cam is (221/221 558/558 112)





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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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There is no "Comp cam thunder cam". Thunder Racing has there own line of cams - one is a 220/220 112 or 114 and the other is a 224/224 112 or 114. You can see them here http://www.thunderracing.com/index.c...id=1114#T1159. These are both great cams that love stock heads and aftermarket heads. Torque on both is outstanding.....I know one guy that switched out a B1 cam to a thunder 220 cam and got only 3 rwhp increase, but decareased his 1/4 mile time by 3/10's! I think the strong torque curve on the Thunder cam was responsible for that......
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 04:12 PM
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Heh oliverm5 I'm running a very similar setup to yours. I have 224 cam and hardened push rods with comp 981 springs, TPIS headers w\cats magnaflow xpipe corsa touring and vortex. I dynoed 340 RWHP sae corrected. Does that seem accurate to you. I do have cats and the stock 2000 intake and no pully but would that make 30+ RWHP difference?
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Do you have an auto?
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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Sorry about that. I have a 2000 6spd.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 05:12 PM
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340RWHP is very low. You can get that with just bolt ons. Did you dyno with a wideband O2? Have you tried autotapping?

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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 05:21 PM
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For an M6, that is very low - you should see at least 355 rwhp with the cam.....try autotapping the car to see what is going on with tuning issues - if all else is fine, your cam install may not have been done right......
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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This was done on speedworks. the wideband showed it being pretty rich at the end. I'm taking it back over to Fastech were I got it installed to get them to dyno it and see what they get. I thought 340 was a little low too. Now I know an LS6 intake, pullie, and not cats would help but I would think that would put me in the 370+ range. :confused:
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Exactly, how much did you pick up with the cam only? The L/T Headers should have given approx. 14!

The LS-6 intake may give you 10hp and the underpulley may account for 5hp. You should be around 355 with just the cam.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 06:37 PM
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I never dynoed it before. I had everything installed together. I know the car was running ok before bcause it ran stock consistant 13.4's at 107 with 2.2 60ft. So I'm really concerned that something isn't right. i haven't taken it to the track yet. I am getting some addtional valvetrain noise but no more than to be expected. Do you think that could be causing a false knock? :crazy: :confused:
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 07:01 PM
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Considering that guys pick up 20rwhp on stock cars with a good intake like a Vortex, I'd guess it would be even more with a car with a cam and headers.

Or did you mean you have the stock LS1 intake manifold? I don't think the LS6 intake does much unless you have ported heads and a healthy cam.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 07:15 PM
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I have the vortex but I don't have the LS6 intake. I thought 340 rwhp would be with just headers.
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 07:55 PM
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You will have to autotap to be sure - no use guessing what's causing low HP otherwise. Anyone with some mods should invest in one.

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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 10:29 PM
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Heh oliverm5 I'm running a very similar setup to yours. I have 224 cam and hardened push rods with comp 981 springs, TPIS headers w\cats magnaflow xpipe corsa touring and vortex. I dynoed 340 RWHP sae corrected. Does that seem accurate to you. I do have cats and the stock 2000 intake and no pully but would that make 30+ RWHP difference?
Holy Crap! who did your install? Headers and intake can give almost 330. You should be well into the 350-360 range. Check your tuning..somthing is big time wrong. :confused:
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Old Feb 21, 2002 | 10:57 PM
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Heavyd 224 is your duration what is the lift and lobe seperation ?
as stated earlier the T1 is 558 lift and 221 duration with a 112 lobe separation.
You should be making a lot more power than 340hp, I have the T1 and I have Dynoed at MTI and Speedworks with the same results of 376hp.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 10:07 AM
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Vette-racer do you have your cats on? Also are you running the stock 2000 intake manifold? Your numbers are SAE corrected? If so then I am really concerned because I agree with you my cam is more aggressive than the T1 and I have WAY less RWHP than you. Thunder racing also shows a lot more HP on their dyno(granted it was on a Fbody which usually gets more but they got 390) What really has me thinking something is wrong too is I raced Kidd and we were dead even and he has an auto with NO stall and a B1 cam and identical intake headers etc. and my car was faster than his when he had his vortex and catback and I was bone stock. :confused: :confused: :crazy: I'm taking it back to fastech tomorrow to have them dyno it and get some idea of what is wrong.
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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 12:30 PM
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What really has me thinking something is wrong too is I raced Kidd and we were dead even and he has an auto with NO stall and a B1 cam and identical intake headers etc. and my car was faster than his when he had his vortex and catback and I was bone stock.
I wouldn't say faster.... :D :D :D

And that would be dead even the second run.... I seem to remember looking at you in the rear view on the first run..... :lol: :lol:

You just have to deal with it Heavy, you got smoked by an Auto..... LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

Wait until I get my fuel adjusted, we'll stand these ponies up again..... :cheers: :cheers:

Yeah, I agree, something is wrong here. I wonder if the cam was put in properly...:mad :mad





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Old Feb 22, 2002 | 04:43 PM
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I knew that was coming. :cheers: You will have to admit mine was definetly faster stock. :D But I will definetly say we are about even now. :boxing :cry Looks like I'm going to have to drop my money on a blower while you drop yours on your rims. what a poser :hat By the way did you notice the Dallas cowboy cheerleader hopefuls at the gym wednesday. Hoo ahhh :eek: :eek: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
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