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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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I'm wondering if anyone has installed Wolfe's bolt-in 6-point cage in their C5 Z06 or FRC? I'm interested in getting one of these but I don't want to have to get any welding done, nor do I want to pay someone else to handle the install. I would assume that it wouldn't be that difficult, but I don't want to run off of an assumption.

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1. get a cage that welds to the frame or at least bolts to the attachment plates that are welded to a frame.

2. pay someone who has proven expereince with race cars to do this.

if you are not willing to do 1 and 2, don't even bother.

I see you're local. Talk to TC Motorsports in Auburn, I have seen their work and it is good.
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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 07:56 PM
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1. get a cage that welds to the frame or at least bolts to the attachment plates that are welded to a frame.

2. pay someone who has proven expereince with race cars to do this.

if you are not willing to do 1 and 2, don't even bother.

I see you're local. Talk to TC Motorsports in Auburn, I have seen their work and it is good.
Thank you for your response - However, I've built several race cars and am quite competent when it comes to handling my own modifications. I was more just curious if anyone had dealt with this specific cage before.

I'll definitely get in contact with TC's and see if they have any insight they can provide.

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I did the Wolfe 6pt bolt on in my Z. PM me for any questions.

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Old Nov 23, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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I've got it in my FRC. Its really not a cage, more of a harness bar. I wouldn't count on it to provide much safety in a crash. It does not connect to the frame, just uses plates to bolt thru the floor. My 2 cents is save the money and either just get a harness bar (if you want to use harnesses) or go with the Pfadt bar that does connect to the frame...or pay the $ and get a real cage.
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I've got it in my FRC. Its really not a cage, more of a harness bar. I wouldn't count on it to provide much safety in a crash. It does not connect to the frame, just uses plates to bolt thru the floor. My 2 cents is save the money and either just get a harness bar (if you want to use harnesses) or go with the Pfadt bar that does connect to the frame...or pay the $ and get a real cage.
Thanks for the feedback - I'm not looking for it to really provide more safety in a crash, although I would think it would help even if it weren't connected to the frame. The purpose of the cage, for me, is more to increase chassis rigidity and make my car legal to run faster than 12.00.
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Originally Posted by DannyG
Thanks for the feedback - I'm not looking for it to really provide more safety in a crash, although I would think it would help even if it weren't connected to the frame. The purpose of the cage, for me, is more to increase chassis rigidity and make my car legal to run faster than 12.00.
Roll bars are required if you run 11.49 or faster and under 135 mph. They are good up to 9.99 or 135 mph then a cage is required.
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it's your decision of course, but if you are already making your car un-streetable and un-sellable, why not do it properly and actually make it safer at the same time?
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it's your decision of course, but if you are already making your car un-streetable and un-sellable, why not do it properly and actually make it safer at the same time?
lol, putting a roll bar in makes it "un-streetable and un-sellable"?
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Hey Danny,

I did the wolfe 5pt in my garage over a weekend, it wasn't too bad. I got it for passing tech at the strip, Pacific and Bremerton. Here's a thread I made with pics and stuff. Some things I remember are, the order takes forever to show up, like 8 weeks. Better order soon for next season! Also, get the aluminum caps to cover the stubs when the side bars are out, they look nice.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/northw...ptions-c5.html
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Interesting. Chris, my door attachment stubs don't stick out as far as yours.

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Yeah, the difference is I got the "swing out" side and yours are "removable" side bars. Yours are less intrusive, as the stub goes right under my arm. It's not much, and but I know it's there. I do like the stub for helping to climb in/out of the thing. If I did another, I might try the removable side. Does it come out pretty easy?
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Yes, piece of cake. Just 2 pins and it slides right out. I need to order those alum caps like you mentioned.
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Originally Posted by clemsondave
lol, putting a roll bar in makes it "un-streetable and un-sellable"?
Thank you for stating my thoughts, exactly...

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Roll bars/cages are not necessarily unstreetable. Just keep in mind they are designed to be used in conjunction with a helmet. If you are short like me, the bar is a good distance away from your head and really poses no threat, but if you are pretty tall and your head is close to the bar, an accident could cause your bare head to make contact with the bar. Of course, you can always pad it, but even that only does so much.
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Originally Posted by 98vettedave
Roll bars are required if you run 11.49 or faster and under 135 mph. They are good up to 9.99 or 135 mph then a cage is required.
You're right - Thanks for catching my mistake. However, my car will be sub 11.49 by the time I'm done with it, and at least a 5-point is required, hence the reason I'm considering this cage.
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Originally Posted by chevylad
Roll bars/cages are not necessarily unstreetable. Just keep in mind they are designed to be used in conjunction with a helmet. If you are short like me, the bar is a good distance away from your head and really poses no threat, but if you are pretty tall and your head is close to the bar, an accident could cause your bare head to make contact with the bar. Of course, you can always pad it, but even that only does so much.
I agree that is an issue with a full cage, but there is no chance of my head hitting the bars in my car. I just hopped in it and could not touch mine even with the seat belt off. The main loop is apx 9" up and back from the top of the driver's seat while it is slid all the way back and fully reclined.

I swore I would never put one of these in my car, but to tell you the truth, I like it now. You can barely see it from the outside. and I cannot see it at all while driving.

Of course, I'm at the point where I would need a full cage and I will never to that to this car.
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Originally Posted by DannyG
Thanks for the feedback - I'm not looking for it to really provide more safety in a crash,
although I personally do not agree with this thought process if thats the reason the Wolfe is the right bar for you.
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Originally Posted by Chris@East Coast Supercharging
although I personally do not agree with this thought process if thats the reason the Wolfe is the right bar for you.
Would increased safety in a crash be great? Of course... But does installing this bolt-in cage decrease safety? No... In order to run faster than 11.49, I need to have a cage in my car. Furthermore, if my car were this fast and I didn't run it at the track; hence, not needing a cage, there would be no kind of safety improvement anyways.

On that note, I'm actually looking into a way to modify this particular cage to bolt to the frame, which I would PREFER. However, if it's a decision between welding to the frame, or bolting to the plates, I'm going to opt for the bolt-in, as I'm not looking to build a full on race car.
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"weekend fun" cars crash just as hard as full on racecars. i have seen a few cars at HPDEs that came there to have some fun (no racing) and ended up a lot flatter. if you ever plan on taking your car to the roadcourse you will appreciate any extra safety.

aside from obvious rollover protection, if you use a harness that attaches to the roll bar, a harness will be useless if attachment points for the roll bar fail.

i imagine that drag strip rules are there for a reason as well, although big part of it is likely track's liability/insurance.
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