Paintjob chipping
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Paintjob chipping
So I had my bumper on my 02 z repainted after alot of bottoming out....so today I pulled into a parking spot and happened to rub the curb as I pulled in a little too far. No biggie, it usually comes right off, and at the very worst Ill use some rubbing compound to remove it. So I take a look when I get home and notice my paint is chipping off! Yes it was like the bumper was spraypainted! What kind of paint is this? Color wise it matches perfectly but apparently they didn't add a flex additive to the mix? Im very angry and will be going down to the ****ty shop tomorrow to let them know
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St. Jude Donor '03
Yeah, even after doing this multiple times, I'm still unable to control my car well enough to avoid colliding with other fixed objects that will certainly damage my paint....it must be the painter's fault.
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its obvious that it was painted without a flex-additive. unacceptable
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St. Jude Donor '03
So Yes, we're talking Vettes, and yes I did hit a curb once....then I learned it's better to stop short, then wait for that awful noise to tell me I should've stopped sooner.
If there was no flex agent in the paint on your front bumper, the entire surface of it would be hairline cracked and checked by now, just from fluctuations in temperature.
New paint is quite fragile, and takes quite a while to be fully cured and bonded to the base surface. You learned this the hard way, but by no means is it the fault of the painter.
Learn how to stop short of curbs, and it'll save you a lot of money.
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Mine wouldn't come close to going OVER a curb...It barely clears my foot.
So Yes, we're talking Vettes, and yes I did hit a curb once....then I learned it's better to stop short, then wait for that awful noise to tell me I should've stopped sooner.
If there was no flex agent in the paint on your front bumper, the entire surface of it would be hairline cracked and checked by now, just from fluctuations in temperature.
New paint is quite fragile, and takes quite a while to be fully cured and bonded to the base surface. You learned this the hard way, but by no means is it the fault of the painter.
Learn how to stop short of curbs, and it'll save you a lot of money.
So Yes, we're talking Vettes, and yes I did hit a curb once....then I learned it's better to stop short, then wait for that awful noise to tell me I should've stopped sooner.
If there was no flex agent in the paint on your front bumper, the entire surface of it would be hairline cracked and checked by now, just from fluctuations in temperature.
New paint is quite fragile, and takes quite a while to be fully cured and bonded to the base surface. You learned this the hard way, but by no means is it the fault of the painter.
Learn how to stop short of curbs, and it'll save you a lot of money.
Theres no logic to paint chipping off like that...what happened here then if the job was done properly? Ive never had paint "chip" off in big pieces like this - usually going over the bumper would lead to a couple scratches that could be taken off with a rubbing compound....let me know since you're apparently a corvette wiz
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If it was painted 6 months ago, and flaked off in a big piece upon contact, it tells me either you scraped it off at the perfect height/angle, or the base surface was insufficiently prepped.
But regardless of that, the paint would still be intact had you not run into anything. (the very point that will get you nowhere with the painter)
I've owned my car over 7 years, and have put about 60k miles on it. It's stored for winter, sure, but that's life in WI. Many others here can attest to my cross country travels and the fact the car is driven.
That's not the point though...Just because you feel you have more opportunities to damage your car, doesn't mean you should take advantage of them. More practice driving and parking should make you more aware of the car's position.
It only took me once to learn....
But regardless of that, the paint would still be intact had you not run into anything. (the very point that will get you nowhere with the painter)
I've owned my car over 7 years, and have put about 60k miles on it. It's stored for winter, sure, but that's life in WI. Many others here can attest to my cross country travels and the fact the car is driven.
That's not the point though...Just because you feel you have more opportunities to damage your car, doesn't mean you should take advantage of them. More practice driving and parking should make you more aware of the car's position.
It only took me once to learn....
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If it was painted 6 months ago, and flaked off in a big piece upon contact, it tells me either you scraped it off at the perfect height/angle, or the base surface was insufficiently prepped.
But regardless of that, the paint would still be intact had you not run into anything. (the very point that will get you nowhere with the painter)
I've owned my car over 7 years, and have put about 60k miles on it. It's stored for winter, sure, but that's life in WI. Many others here can attest to my cross country travels and the fact the car is driven.
That's not the point though...Just because you feel you have more opportunities to damage your car, doesn't mean you should take advantage of them. More practice driving and parking should make you more aware of the car's position.
It only took me once to learn....
But regardless of that, the paint would still be intact had you not run into anything. (the very point that will get you nowhere with the painter)
I've owned my car over 7 years, and have put about 60k miles on it. It's stored for winter, sure, but that's life in WI. Many others here can attest to my cross country travels and the fact the car is driven.
That's not the point though...Just because you feel you have more opportunities to damage your car, doesn't mean you should take advantage of them. More practice driving and parking should make you more aware of the car's position.
It only took me once to learn....
I'll work on my driving and you work on your reading comprehension
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St. Jude Donor '03
That's the bottom line. You didn't mention any complaints with the paint prior to collision.
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So I had my bumper on my 02 z repainted after alot of bottoming out....so today I pulled into a parking spot and happened to rub the curb as I pulled in a little too far. No biggie, it usually comes right off, and at the very worst Ill use some rubbing compound to remove it. So I take a look when I get home and notice my paint is chipping off! Yes it was like the bumper was spraypainted! What kind of paint is this? Color wise it matches perfectly but apparently they didn't add a flex additive to the mix? Im very angry and will be going down to the ****ty shop tomorrow to let them know
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I don't believe you have to use flex agent much anymore with real urethane paints (which I'm "assuming" is what they used), the problem is probably adhesion with the old paint. If the bumper was intact before the paint job, they probably just scuffed it with a 3M pad and shot right over the old color with little or no priming would be my guess.
I left some Urethane in a mixing cup not too long ago and when the hardening was done it was like a huge chunk of Jello. Either way, I doubt he'll warantee this since you ran into something.
I left some Urethane in a mixing cup not too long ago and when the hardening was done it was like a huge chunk of Jello. Either way, I doubt he'll warantee this since you ran into something.
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St. Jude Donor '15
So I had my bumper on my 02 z repainted after alot of bottoming out....so today I pulled into a parking spot and happened to rub the curb as I pulled in a little too far. No biggie, it usually comes right off, and at the very worst Ill use some rubbing compound to remove it. So I take a look when I get home and notice my paint is chipping off! Yes it was like the bumper was spraypainted! What kind of paint is this? Color wise it matches perfectly but apparently they didn't add a flex additive to the mix? Im very angry and will be going down to the ****ty shop tomorrow to let them know
it all comes down to prep and using high quality paint. i've seen a couple of shops just use some kind of rubbing compound crap on top of existing paint then paint right over it. looks fine for a few months..then falls right off.
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Y2Kvert4me is right. You damaged the bumper before you were aware of a paint problem. It's a crappy situation you're in, but most body shops aren't going to repaint that bumper after you've damaged it.
BTW, I have daily driven mine in rain and snow and have never hit a curb. Accidents happen... just move on and be sure to stop short from now on.
BTW, I have daily driven mine in rain and snow and have never hit a curb. Accidents happen... just move on and be sure to stop short from now on.
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Y2Kvert4me is right. You damaged the bumper before you were aware of a paint problem. It's a crappy situation you're in, but most body shops aren't going to repaint that bumper after you've damaged it.
BTW, I have daily driven mine in rain and snow and have never hit a curb. Accidents happen... just move on and be sure to stop short from now on.
BTW, I have daily driven mine in rain and snow and have never hit a curb. Accidents happen... just move on and be sure to stop short from now on.
The bottom line is they didn't do their job properly. Say you buy a new vette and decide to give it a rip through the gears and in the process the clutch disk explodes into pieces. Is that the owners fault or Chevy? Chevy could argue the car shouldn't be reved to its max nor should you be shifting gears that quickly, although when you bought the car you were under the assumption that revving it to its max and shifting gears would be ok. Sort of a grey area
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Well there would be no other way to realize the paint problem without having the bumper come into contact with something. I do agree that they're probably not going to help me out, but I'll have to go to small claims and test my luck there.
The bottom line is they didn't do their job properly. Say you buy a new vette and decide to give it a rip through the gears and in the process the clutch disk explodes into pieces. Is that the owners fault or Chevy? Chevy could argue the car shouldn't be reved to its max nor should you be shifting gears that quickly, although when you bought the car you were under the assumption that revving it to its max and shifting gears would be ok. Sort of a grey area
The bottom line is they didn't do their job properly. Say you buy a new vette and decide to give it a rip through the gears and in the process the clutch disk explodes into pieces. Is that the owners fault or Chevy? Chevy could argue the car shouldn't be reved to its max nor should you be shifting gears that quickly, although when you bought the car you were under the assumption that revving it to its max and shifting gears would be ok. Sort of a grey area
Bite the bullet dude-SMALL CLAIMS, are you kidding-you hit the curb. Ever see a older Ford or Mopar where the factory paint came off in SHEETS after a few years? It happens! Maybe they will cut you a small break to repair it but I would NOT expect them to do it FREE. And one of the reasons there is a engine REV limiter it to try to keep most of the monkeys from blowing thing up (at least on upshifts), beleive me, if a dealer believed you hot rodded the car and blew it up they WOULD NOT COVER THE REPAIR.
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Bite the bullet dude-SMALL CLAIMS, are you kidding-you hit the curb. Ever see a older Ford or Mopar where the factory paint came off in SHEETS after a few years? It happens! Maybe they will cut you a small break to repair it but I would NOT expect them to do it FREE. And one of the reasons there is a engine REV limiter it to try to keep most of the monkeys from blowing thing up (at least on upshifts), beleive me, if a dealer believed you hot rodded the car and blew it up they WOULD NOT COVER THE REPAIR.
I was referring to shifting at 6500 into the next gear, not downshifting into 2nd at 120 miles per hour and hitting 12,000 rpms. A brand new vette being properly shifted at 6,000 RPMs should never have an issue with something happening - if it did then its the fault of Chevy. The bottom line is if this was painted properly I'd have some marks at worse and get it taken care of it with rubbing compound in 10 seconds, but now I have to pay 700 dollars to have the bumper REPAINTED the proper way.
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Older Ford or Mopar? did you not read I had this painted 6 months ago?
I was referring to shifting at 6500 into the next gear, not downshifting into 2nd at 120 miles per hour and hitting 12,000 rpms. A brand new vette being properly shifted at 6,000 RPMs should never have an issue with something happening - if it did then its the fault of Chevy. The bottom line is if this was painted properly I'd have some marks at worse and get it taken care of it with rubbing compound in 10 seconds, but now I have to pay 700 dollars to have the bumper REPAINTED the proper way.
I was referring to shifting at 6500 into the next gear, not downshifting into 2nd at 120 miles per hour and hitting 12,000 rpms. A brand new vette being properly shifted at 6,000 RPMs should never have an issue with something happening - if it did then its the fault of Chevy. The bottom line is if this was painted properly I'd have some marks at worse and get it taken care of it with rubbing compound in 10 seconds, but now I have to pay 700 dollars to have the bumper REPAINTED the proper way.
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