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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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The easy way to determine flow is look at the thermostat, on one end you will see a copper button.
This end will always be facing the outflow of hot coolent.
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 02:45 PM
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The easy way to determine flow is look at the thermostat, on one end you will see a copper button.
This end will always be facing the outflow of hot coolent.
Check out the LSX engine again
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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Whew, we beat the snot out of this horse!
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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Whew, we beat the snot out of this horse!
Yep, and for some....it still remains unresolved....
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Check out the LSX engine again
Ok, I think I understand what you're saying. Coolant in the engine block is constantly circulated through the heater core whether the thermostat is open or closed. Once the coolant has come up to temp it will cause the thermostat to open allowing coolant from the radiator into the system?

I still don't understand how there can be an air gap in the radiator. It appears to me the coolant reservoir is higher than the top of the radiator?
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Yep, and for some....it still remains unresolved....
I guess that would be me
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Originally Posted by SDPC
If the heater core flow is blocked that is your problem. The coolant running through the heater core is what provides the thermostat with the heated coolant and causes it to open. Otherwise there is no significant coolant flow past the thermostat.

Guys, coolant flows into the engine from the lower radiator hose. It goes in through the thermostat, into the block and up. That's why there is the air bleed tube that connects to the top of the radiator from the crossover between the heads. It is the highest point on the engine and the steam/air is vented to the upper part of the radiator to prevent air pockets. Coolant flows out of the engine from the upper radiator hose opening and into the top of the radiator. Until it warms up and the thermostat opens, there is not free flow through the radiator and the thermostat gets it's water flow thanks to the heater core hoses.
Exactly "Right," and the Service Manual is "Wrong."
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Old Dec 21, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by eeeny
I may be wrong about it being blocked off, I'll have to map all the pipes.


yep, with the heater set to off, the heater core lines are blocks by a solenoid... that definatley must be a contributing factor to my problem.
Tell us more about this mythical "solenoid" that blocks coolant flow in, or to, the heater core. It doesn't exist.

Coolant flows through the heater core all the time. It's the air flow through the heater core that gets regulated to allow for more/less heat into the passenger compartment. There is a small electric (stepper type I believe) motor that controls the opening and closing of the air flow damper that ultimately regulates how much air flows through, so when you rotate the "Temp" **** (C60), or command more heat (CJ2), etc, the electric motor moves the damper door. Coolant flow through the heater core is not blocked.

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Tell us more about this mythical "solenoid" that blocks coolant flow in, or to, the heater core. It doesn't exist.
Huh? , no wonder I can't find it...
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Huh? , no wonder I can't find it...
Now you can rest easy Luck.
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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
Now you can rest easy Luck.
No kidding....all this crazy cooling stuff. Next thing you know, someone will try to drive the water pump off the cam gear.........
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
No kidding....all this crazy cooling stuff. Next thing you know, someone will try to drive the water pump off the cam gear.........
Wow! What won't they think of next? Belt driven or electric water pumps maybe? Whodda thunk?
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Quote from first post:but I am building a factory five GTM which is based on a C5 and I am having some issues with cooling.
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Hey Lucky and Lonestar, he's building a Kit car, and the heater system on it has colant shut off on it, therefore the problem. I wanted to explain that when I ask the question in post #3. Now we're at a post count of 53. Will it ever end?
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Originally Posted by byronhunter
Quote from first post:but I am building a factory five GTM which is based on a C5 and I am having some issues with cooling.
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Hey Lucky and Lonestar, he's building a Kit car, and the heater system on it has colant shut off on it, therefore the problem. I wanted to explain that when I ask the question in post #3. Now we're at a post count of 53. Will it ever end?
I was just responding to the heater coolant "solenoid" comment and nothing more. If he, or someone else, has installed a heater control valve, then he no longer has a stock C5 type cooling system. It would have been nice to know this up front as it may have a bearing on getting an effective answer to his question.
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Originally Posted by byronhunter
Quote from first post:but I am building a factory five GTM which is based on a C5 and I am having some issues with cooling.
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Hey Lucky and Lonestar, he's building a Kit car, and the heater system on it has colant shut off on it, therefore the problem. I wanted to explain that when I ask the question in post #3. Now we're at a post count of 53. Will it ever end?
Sorry Byronhunter........I'm off this week...and already on my third Beam
& Coke.....
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Sorry Byronhunter........I'm off this week...and already on my third Beam
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Have one or two more for me and Byron.
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Originally Posted by SDPC
Check out the LSX engine again
So your telling me the sensing pellet is on the cold side????????
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Originally Posted by corvettebob1
So your telling me the sensing pellet is on the cold side????????
No the sensing is on the hot side?? I think! Been so long since I put mine in. Has to be on the hot side otherwise it would never open!
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So your telling me the sensing pellet is on the cold side????????
That's not what I said. Read this thread and gain an understanding of how the system is set up. The thermostat is not inline with the hot water out of the engine and to the radiator on the LSx, it is on the radiator outlet/water pump inlet.
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Originally Posted by SDPC
That's not what I said. Read this thread and gain an understanding of how the system is set up. The thermostat is not inline with the hot water out of the engine and to the radiator on the LSx, it is on the radiator outlet/water pump inlet.
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