Economical 100HP?
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Economical 100HP?
I'd like to add 100 horse, but I'm trying to be somewhat frugal this year.
No nitrous.
What's the most economical way to go?
04 C5
On a sidenote, what does a tune typically yield in whp?
No nitrous.
What's the most economical way to go?
04 C5
On a sidenote, what does a tune typically yield in whp?
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Main Entry: fru·gal
Pronunciation: \ˈfrü-gəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French, from Latin frugalis virtuous, frugal, from frug-, frux fruit, value; akin to Latin frui to enjoy
Date: 1590
: characterized by or reflecting economy in the use of resources
synonyms see sparing
— fru·gal·i·ty \frü-ˈga-lə-tē\ noun
— fru·gal·ly \ˈfrü-gə-lē\ adverb
Pronunciation: \ˈfrü-gəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French, from Latin frugalis virtuous, frugal, from frug-, frux fruit, value; akin to Latin frui to enjoy
Date: 1590
: characterized by or reflecting economy in the use of resources
synonyms see sparing
— fru·gal·i·ty \frü-ˈga-lə-tē\ noun
— fru·gal·ly \ˈfrü-gə-lē\ adverb
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Main Entry: fru·gal
Pronunciation: \ˈfrü-gəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French, from Latin frugalis virtuous, frugal, from frug-, frux fruit, value; akin to Latin frui to enjoy
Date: 1590
: characterized by or reflecting economy in the use of resources
synonyms see sparing
— fru·gal·i·ty \frü-ˈga-lə-tē\ noun
— fru·gal·ly \ˈfrü-gə-lē\ adverb
Pronunciation: \ˈfrü-gəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French, from Latin frugalis virtuous, frugal, from frug-, frux fruit, value; akin to Latin frui to enjoy
Date: 1590
: characterized by or reflecting economy in the use of resources
synonyms see sparing
— fru·gal·i·ty \frü-ˈga-lə-tē\ noun
— fru·gal·ly \ˈfrü-gə-lē\ adverb
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Soo without nitrous what's the cheapest way to add 100 hp?
I am interested in a sc at some point, but probably not for a year or two.
As for budget, I think I'd like to stay under a grand right now.
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I've never looked into a cam before but have seen some pretty healthy hp gain numbers on here on various posts.
When I say staying under a grand I'm speaking just in parts cost.
What would a cam setup be ballpark and what kind of hp would you be looking at?
I'm still running the stock air filter too... I've seen people on here going with the blackwing, the vararam (sp?) etc... Suggestions? I've heard this nets a fair amount since the stock filter is so restrictive.
Also, any ideas on the tune? Someone was telling me you are looking at 45-60whp from a tune on a stock vehicle... Seems a bit optimistic to me but?
Exhaust wise, been eyeballing the Z06 exhaust postings, but is it really worth spending 450ish on that, or better just waiting and going for a corsa/borla or something? If I picked up a z06 exhaust, I'd be concerned about regretting doing so if aftermarket exhaust is that much better.
When I say staying under a grand I'm speaking just in parts cost.
What would a cam setup be ballpark and what kind of hp would you be looking at?
I'm still running the stock air filter too... I've seen people on here going with the blackwing, the vararam (sp?) etc... Suggestions? I've heard this nets a fair amount since the stock filter is so restrictive.
Also, any ideas on the tune? Someone was telling me you are looking at 45-60whp from a tune on a stock vehicle... Seems a bit optimistic to me but?
Exhaust wise, been eyeballing the Z06 exhaust postings, but is it really worth spending 450ish on that, or better just waiting and going for a corsa/borla or something? If I picked up a z06 exhaust, I'd be concerned about regretting doing so if aftermarket exhaust is that much better.
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i sold a LG G5X3 cam a few months back for $300'ish?? But with that cam you also have to change out the valve springs and you should do the push rods as well..don't remember what those cost. The cam is $499 brand new from LG. If you can do the labor yourself I'd say it's possible for under a grand.
I dunno about the Z06 exhaust but honestly I'd save the $$ and get something aftermarket.. and you'll probably see more from headers than exhaust, imo. i could be wrong though. Again, you're gonna be hard pressed to find something worthwhile for under a grand
45-60hp from tuning ain't gonna happen.
stock air box is pretty restrictive. the vararam is supposedly really good but isn't going to help you on the dyno so tough to say what you'll gain.. it will only while moving.
nitrous really is the way to go if you want a quick 100hp for under $1000.
I dunno about the Z06 exhaust but honestly I'd save the $$ and get something aftermarket.. and you'll probably see more from headers than exhaust, imo. i could be wrong though. Again, you're gonna be hard pressed to find something worthwhile for under a grand
45-60hp from tuning ain't gonna happen.
stock air box is pretty restrictive. the vararam is supposedly really good but isn't going to help you on the dyno so tough to say what you'll gain.. it will only while moving.
nitrous really is the way to go if you want a quick 100hp for under $1000.
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i sold a LG G5X3 cam a few months back for $300'ish?? But with that cam you also have to change out the valve springs and you should do the push rods as well..don't remember what those cost. The cam is $499 brand new from LG. If you can do the labor yourself I'd say it's possible for under a grand.
I dunno about the Z06 exhaust but honestly I'd save the $$ and get something aftermarket.. and you'll probably see more from headers than exhaust, imo. i could be wrong though. Again, you're gonna be hard pressed to find something worthwhile for under a grand
45-60hp from tuning ain't gonna happen.
stock air box is pretty restrictive. the vararam is supposedly really good but isn't going to help you on the dyno so tough to say what you'll gain.. it will only while moving.
nitrous really is the way to go if you want a quick 100hp for under $1000.
I dunno about the Z06 exhaust but honestly I'd save the $$ and get something aftermarket.. and you'll probably see more from headers than exhaust, imo. i could be wrong though. Again, you're gonna be hard pressed to find something worthwhile for under a grand
45-60hp from tuning ain't gonna happen.
stock air box is pretty restrictive. the vararam is supposedly really good but isn't going to help you on the dyno so tough to say what you'll gain.. it will only while moving.
nitrous really is the way to go if you want a quick 100hp for under $1000.
Good to do the rods just because you are already into the motor, or because the cam will damage the motor without them?
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As I stated earlier, I'm not really interested in spending more than a grand right now (in parts).
It seems these motors respond well to mods, so I'm curious how close I can get with that.
I will likely go mod crazy and most likely move to forced induction next year, but in the meantime I'd like a little extra grin factor
It seems these motors respond well to mods, so I'm curious how close I can get with that.
I will likely go mod crazy and most likely move to forced induction next year, but in the meantime I'd like a little extra grin factor
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I don't think its very easy to gain that much except for nitrous.
If it was me and planning a supercharger down the line I would opt for a performance mod that will compliment the supercharger system later like full length headers. Even that is likely to already pass the $1000 dollar mark.
If it was me and planning a supercharger down the line I would opt for a performance mod that will compliment the supercharger system later like full length headers. Even that is likely to already pass the $1000 dollar mark.
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The only way you're going to get near 100 hp for under $1k is nitrous.
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Lets see!
I did long tube headers (bay version $200)
10% underdrive pully Varram and bigger air bridge (all three for $250 total) these were used and i got them off a forum member that decided to go supercharrged.
Chucky Computer Tune w/ 160 stat ($250)
I say that put me 60 hp over stock for $700
I did long tube headers (bay version $200)
10% underdrive pully Varram and bigger air bridge (all three for $250 total) these were used and i got them off a forum member that decided to go supercharrged.
Chucky Computer Tune w/ 160 stat ($250)
I say that put me 60 hp over stock for $700
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St. Jude Donor '10
Lets see!
I did long tube headers (bay version $200)
10% underdrive pully Varram and bigger air bridge (all three for $250 total) these were used and i got them off a forum member that decided to go supercharrged.
Chucky Computer Tune w/ 160 stat ($250)
I say that put me 60 hp over stock for $700
I did long tube headers (bay version $200)
10% underdrive pully Varram and bigger air bridge (all three for $250 total) these were used and i got them off a forum member that decided to go supercharrged.
Chucky Computer Tune w/ 160 stat ($250)
I say that put me 60 hp over stock for $700
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Lets see!
I did long tube headers (bay version $200)
10% underdrive pully Varram and bigger air bridge (all three for $250 total) these were used and i got them off a forum member that decided to go supercharrged.
Chucky Computer Tune w/ 160 stat ($250)
I say that put me 60 hp over stock for $700
I did long tube headers (bay version $200)
10% underdrive pully Varram and bigger air bridge (all three for $250 total) these were used and i got them off a forum member that decided to go supercharrged.
Chucky Computer Tune w/ 160 stat ($250)
I say that put me 60 hp over stock for $700