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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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The car is running fine now and I read that 200,000 can be made with no problem. With my high mileage shhould I start thinking about a rebuild or new motor. With a 2000 vert what would be the best way to go. I'm only looking for around 400 hp. Do I need to have the bottom end redone if I go with h/c. I looked on the forum and I seen blown motors and guys that want high hp. But I looking for something that will last for long ride around the country.(I'm retireing) I will put headers on with B/B that are on now. Will any of the motors slip in w/o a lot of change to whatever that is needed. Do I need to change the jack shalf also because I'm on the original cluch. I don't drag race but do drive spiritedly. Thanks for the help
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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Hard call-I do know I would trade/sell it for a low mile jewel-but thats me-good luck
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 10:44 AM
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You could do a simple rebuild with a GOOD set of heads and mild cam, make over 400 to the wheels, and have it last a long long time.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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You could also buy a Cadilliac LS6 crate motor for under 4k. 5yr, 100k GM warranty
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by slowtealz28
You could do a simple rebuild with a GOOD set of heads and mild cam, make over 400 to the wheels, and have it last a long long time.
What is a "simple rebuild", and how would it compare to a "not simple rebuild". Where would one get a "GOOD set of heads"?
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If it runs fine and doesn't need anything, I'd just leave it alone until it broke.
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Is a simple rebuild a rebuilt lower end and then add heads and cam. Is a ls6 a simple bolt in or do you need to change alot of things

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If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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My car is at 160,000. I have replaced everything in the drivetrain, except the short block, which is still fine.

I bought a longblock from scoggins-dickey. The one mentioned above for 3250 shipped.
I have no idea when I will need to put it in, but it is here when I need to.

It is 405 hp, and with the add ons it will get before it goes in, it will be what I want.

Mild cam, intake/TB, underdrive pulley, headers, etc.
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Originally Posted by frankb
Is a simple rebuild a rebuilt lower end and then add heads and cam. Is a ls6 a simple bolt in or do you need to change alot of things
All you need on this motor to use is to change the oil pan with yours, and add a pilot bearing if you have a six-speed.
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159K is nothing know a guy with a 98 last time I looked it had 365K and its a daily driver still original
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Depends on maintenance on the car. 159k it can still have some good mileage behind it if it was taken care of. I have seen some 80-90k cars that are in crap shape. If it is fine, then keep the maintenance up and enjoy it. These motors, if taken care of, can last a long time. 154k here on mine and it is fine. Supercharged as well. I figure when it goes, time for a low compression forged motor, but have not been able to kill this one yet.
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JerzeyJoe
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Mileage should not dictate when a motor needs a rebuild, condition does. As others have said, if it runs well and isn't using significant amounts of oil, why consider a rebuild? If you really just want to add alot of horsepower, then a rebuild or crate motor makes sense.
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as you can see there are a ton of options... Your wallet is the limit
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thanks guys, Yes it is well taken care of and knowning it can go over 200000. I was just thinking of and up grade down the road. more or less seeing how much I need to start saving for the new rebuild or motor. I also found (after pages of reading) someone similar to my question. Thank You all for your help.
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Originally Posted by ipuig
What is a "simple rebuild", and how would it compare to a "not simple rebuild". Where would one get a "GOOD set of heads"?
By simple rebuild I mean using the original block and not going crazy with a new motor, giant cam, etc, and not using forged internals. Good heads look into trickflow or afr.
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Originally Posted by slowtealz28
By simple rebuild I mean using the original block and not going crazy with a new motor, giant cam, etc, and not using forged internals. Good heads look into trickflow or afr.
I would not consider; "going crazy with a new motor, giant cam, etc, and not using forged internals" as part of a rebuild or overhaul simple or otherwise.
Your definition of "good heads" is a matter of your opinion. There are dozens of aftermarket LS heads on the market, popularity does not equate to "good".
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Just add a 200shot with a dedicated.
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Originally Posted by ipuig
I would not consider; "going crazy with a new motor, giant cam, etc, and not using forged internals" as part of a rebuild or overhaul simple or otherwise.
Your definition of "good heads" is a matter of your opinion. There are dozens of aftermarket LS heads on the market, popularity does not equate to "good".
I think the definition of good heads is a little more fact than my opinion. Look at the proven performers. Trickflows and AFR's flow, dyno, and perform at the track better much more often than others.
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