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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 11:12 PM
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Ive been hearing an intermittent noise on the front of the engine, sort of a squeal and tic combined with a whirring noise. The last time I drove the car it was faint, then went away completely. Today I started it up everything was fine for about 10 seconds then it really came back with a vengance and now it is loud ... really loud. I even noticed that when the noise began it pulled the idle speed down momentarily and almost stalled the engine. All gauges read normal. No fluids leaking, checked the weep hole at the water pump, its dry. I planned to replace both belts anyway, so just to try and isolate the problem I cut the A/C belt and the noise is still there. I will loosen the main belt tomorrow and see if that silences it. I dont think the tensioner or idler pulley look too hard to replace but if it turns out to be the water pump, does anyone have a link to a write-up on water pump replacement ?

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Found this which tells me how to do the job, thought I would post it up just in case someone else runs into the same thing.

http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=27

I am wating for my morning coffee to kick in then its out to the garage to slip the main belt off and see if the noise is still there. I am taking the day off from work to get this sorted out . Has anyone ever had a water pump act up (make noise) without anything coming out of the weep hole and not overheating ?

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Originally Posted by blazer427X3
Found this which tells me how to do the job, thought I would post it up just in case someone else runs into the same thing.

http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=27

I am wating for my morning coffee to kick in then its out to the garage to slip the main belt off and see if the noise is still there. I am taking the day off from work to get this sorted out . Has anyone ever had a water pump act up (make noise) without anything coming out of the weep hole and not overheating ?
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After taking the main belt off, check for looseness or slop in all of the tensioner and idler pulleys.
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Thanks LoneStar. The idler pulley is cheap, tensioner isnt too expensive either, even if it turns out to be the water pump I think I will replace them along with putting on a new Gatorback belt so I don't have to worry about anything in the area.
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Thanks LoneStar. The idler pulley is cheap, tensioner isnt too expensive either, even if it turns out to be the water pump I think I will replace them along with putting on a new Gatorback belt so I don't have to worry about anything in the area.
Nice thing about the main tensioner is that you can easily change just the pulley. I think I used a Gates 38006 on mine IIRC. Much less expensive. Since the others (A/C tensioner and both idlers) are harder to get to, changing out the whole assembly on them makes more sense. I agree on the Gatorbacks too. Best choice.
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Took the belt off ... the whirring noise went away but tick is still present. Pulled valve covers, no broken springs evident on visual inspection, rockers looked to move normally when I bump the engine. Starting to look like this is an internal problem. Compression test next, what should normal compression be ? Without a belt the tick sounds a lot like it could be a lifter but I cant isolate which side its on, almost like its coming from under the intake manifold. I will take a closer look at the rockers and check for a bent push rod first. I will shoot a short video and post it to get some opinions on the noise. No overrev ... at least not recently and I think its interesting that the tick went away and then came back. The tick just started the other day when I started it up. I should probably post anything further about this under a new thread entitled NOT the water pump.

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Took the belt off ... the whirring noise went away but tick is still present. Pulled valve covers, no broken springs evident on visual inspection, rockers looked to move normally when I bump the engine. Starting to look like this is an internal problem. Compression test next, what should normal compression be ? Without a belt the tick sounds a lot like it could be a lifter but I cant isolate which side its on, almost like its coming from under the intake manifold. I will take a closer look at the rockers and check for a bent push rod first. I will shoot a short video and post it to get some opinions on the noise. No overrev ... at least not recently and I think its interesting that the tick went away and then came back. The tick just started the other day when I started it up. I should probably post anything further about this under a new thread entitled NOT the water pump.
Depending on how the "tick" sounds, it may be worthwhile checking for an exhaust leak either at the A.I.R. fittings on the manifolds or the manifold-to-head gasket.
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I replaced my water pump last month. I also heard that ticking noise and found some coolent on my garage floor. Easy job, must take your time. The bolt that is furthest on the pump (drivers side) will not come completly off bercause of the ABS brake assy. Pull the pump off with the bolt with it. Good idea to do is manufacture some giude pins that side into the bolt holes on the block, this will help in installing the pump. Found it to be helpfull when aligning the pimp with the gaskets onto the block. Check on some more write up. I found lots of data on this site. People her are good at listed what they have done.

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Took the belt off ... the whirring noise went away but tick is still present. Pulled valve covers, no broken springs evident on visual inspection, rockers looked to move normally when I bump the engine. Starting to look like this is an internal problem. Compression test next, what should normal compression be ? Without a belt the tick sounds a lot like it could be a lifter but I cant isolate which side its on, almost like its coming from under the intake manifold. I will take a closer look at the rockers and check for a bent push rod first. I will shoot a short video and post it to get some opinions on the noise. No overrev ... at least not recently and I think its interesting that the tick went away and then came back. The tick just started the other day when I started it up. I should probably post anything further about this under a new thread entitled NOT the water pump.
get a mechanics stethoscope. Also, the other noises went away without the belt....so you have not proven the water pump is good..........
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Thanks for the input guys, its really appreciated. I am pretty sure I have an internal issue and will post again in this section later this evening after I get a little more info and can more clearly illustrate the issue and list the circumstances which occurred up to this point.

Again ... Thank You.

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