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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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I am about to install long tube headers and was wondering if I should wrap the headers or leave them as is. I was thinking of wrapping them to help get more heat down to the high flow catalytic converters so as to not have any emission problems down the road. So should I wrap or not, Thanks Paul.
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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NO, have them ceramic coated.
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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NO, have them ceramic coated.


Wrap does help with the heat. What they don't tell you is it will be a sponge for anything that floats by, think oils. It can get to the point where it is a wick for your car and be a fire hazard. Blew an engine and it shot oil on my wrapped headers and started a good fire. Caused more damage than what you would think.
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Old Apr 16, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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A wrap will also tend to degrade the metal tubing...
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and the first couple times you fire it up you'll think it caught on fire from the smoke rolling off the wrap as it "burns in".
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NO, have them ceramic coated.
Yeah.. but that can be VERY $$$ too
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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Yeah.. but that can be VERY $$$ too
What's cheaper, having to replace the headers in 3 years because they rotted out from the wrap? Buying the header already coated does not add that much to the price.
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Old Apr 17, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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Heat wrap will not rot a stainless set of headers nor damage the header material if done right. The trick is not to overlap to much when wrapping (only overlap 1/4"). Also, don't wrap the cats! As for me, I creamic coated the headers and wrapped the rest of the pipes. No heat problem at all!
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Yeah.. but that can be VERY $$$ too
Usually less than $200...cheap insurance IMO.
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Usually less than $200...cheap insurance IMO.
Yeah butits just a coating.. I know Im over simplyfying the process... but it cant be much diffrent from powercoating..
1. prep.. ie bead spray and wipe down
coat.. using sprayer
bake... in oven

What am I missing
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Originally Posted by hotwheels57
A wrap will also tend to degrade the metal tubing...


They will rot stainless tubing because the wrap will get wet and retain the moisture, BTDT. The process is also a big PITA.
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Originally Posted by BitViper
Yeah butits just a coating.. I know Im over simplyfying the process... but it cant be much diffrent from powercoating..
1. prep.. ie bead spray and wipe down
coat.. using sprayer
bake... in oven

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It's NOT just a coating, the ceramic keeps the heat in the header-that's what it really for, looks are just secondary.

Read all about it:
http://www.jet-hot.com/techinfo.html
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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
It's NOT just a coating, the ceramic keeps the heat in the header-that's what it really for, looks are just secondary.

Read all about it:
http://www.jet-hot.com/techinfo.html

Thanks I ve read about it.. sound like a good thing.. Im just being cheap... 200 bucks is a butt load for a spray job
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I got ceramic coated melrose headers with random tech cats and an x-pipe and installation included for 1800 bucks
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Jet hot can do the inside and the outside of the headers.
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Originally Posted by BitViper
Thanks I ve read about it.. sound like a good thing.. Im just being cheap... 200 bucks is a butt load for a spray job
Then yes...you're cheap. I paid $125 for my B&B shorties to be coated inside & out, and I'd do it again on any other vehicle.
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I got ceramic coated melrose headers with random tech cats and an x-pipe and installation included for 1800 bucks
Where exactly did you get that deal
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I am about to install long tube headers and was wondering if I should wrap the headers or leave them as is. I was thinking of wrapping them to help get more heat down to the high flow catalytic converters so as to not have any emission problems down the road. So should I wrap or not, Thanks Paul.
Reduce temps with wrap around 50 MAYBE 100 if you are lucky.

Reduce temps with a good ceramic 250 - 350 on the high side.

Wraps will rot the metal no matter what it is. Even with the silicone spray you will still hold moister under the wrap AS well retain moister within the pipes themselves. You also run a much greater risk of cracking your SS header with a wrap. Not to mention wraps create hot spots in the header causing thermal fatigue and heat soak that will eat you alive.
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Then yes...you're cheap. I paid $125 for my B&B shorties to be coated inside & out, and I'd do it again on any other vehicle.
Ahh.. 125.... now thats what Im talking about.. shoot me a number
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Old Apr 22, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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Just spoke with Anthony at LG about ceramic coating last week. He didn't seem to think it was worth it. He said they keep burning it off the pipes on their car.
Not sure about wrapping.
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