C6 shocks won't fit, please help
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '08
C6 shocks won't fit, please help
Hey guys, I went to put c6 shocks on my 2000 couple last night. followed the mcrat/fuzzydice install proceedure. should have been straightforward but my issue was mounting the rear shocks. the upper bracket that I removed from the c5 shock does not seem to fit the c6 shock. I can not tighten the bracken on to the c6 shock. I get to the end of the threads and there is still play in the bracket. I compared a c5 shock to the c6 shock and it seems to be a different size. here is a pic to help illustrate my issue. these are not my pics.
this is where the problem is. I tighten the bolt as above but it will not go far enough to make the bracket tight. there is significant play in it. is it possible I need new bushings for the bracket? please help as this should have been an easy job but turned into a very frustrating night
this is where the problem is. I tighten the bolt as above but it will not go far enough to make the bracket tight. there is significant play in it. is it possible I need new bushings for the bracket? please help as this should have been an easy job but turned into a very frustrating night
Melting Slicks
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From: Katy Tx
why mess with the brackets at all? -- I put my new C6-Z06 shocks, including the brackets they comoe with, directly in place of the originals -- 2 bolts on top - one big one at the bottom. Compressing them is a bit of a pain -- but everything lined up perfectly.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '08
thanks
Melting Slicks
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Did you buy the shocks new and are they GM C6 Z06 shocks? If so, they should have come with the brackets installed. Mine did. Try contacting Gene Culley at www.gmpartshouse.com and see if he can help you.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '08
Did you buy the shocks new and are they GM C6 Z06 shocks? If so, they should have come with the brackets installed. Mine did. Try contacting Gene Culley at www.gmpartshouse.com and see if he can help you.
thanks
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '08
I am going to inquire with my local dealer about the bushing as I think they are worn out but if they aren't, a couple of washers it is!!!!
thanks
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By the looks of the pic,I dont see the bushing mounted on the top part of the flange beneath the big washer,did you install it?The shocks are a direct fit and brackets are the same for C5-C6.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '08
thanks for the info!!bottom line is my 10 year old car likely has worn out bushings and I am hoping new ones will solve this install problem. thank you all for the help. this website is awesome and I would not have diagnosed this problem without it!!! I will let you know when I get the new bushings (2 week order time to get them from the US to Canada
) and tell you how the install went!rob
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I hope you didn't call just for me:o but the research I did says the 2 piece insulator and metal bracket are interchangable. Nice to hear Gene confirmed that. I am now just trying to get some new bushings-I think that will solve my problem. thanks for the info!!
the pic above is from a magazine write up, not my car. that said, it is exactally like what mine looks like. the insulator is 2 seperate pieces that attach to the metal bracket from each side.
bottom line is my 10 year old car likely has worn out bushings and I am hoping new ones will solve this install problem. thank you all for the help. this website is awesome and I would not have diagnosed this problem without it!!! I will let you know when I get the new bushings (2 week order time to get them from the US to Canada) and tell you how the install went!
rob
thanks for the info!!the pic above is from a magazine write up, not my car. that said, it is exactally like what mine looks like. the insulator is 2 seperate pieces that attach to the metal bracket from each side.
bottom line is my 10 year old car likely has worn out bushings and I am hoping new ones will solve this install problem. thank you all for the help. this website is awesome and I would not have diagnosed this problem without it!!! I will let you know when I get the new bushings (2 week order time to get them from the US to Canada
) and tell you how the install went!rob
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i just installed mine tonight without any trouble at all other than my cheap zip ties breaking.
for the top of the shocks i used a ratcheting 15mm wrench and a spoke wrench to hold on with, it worked perfectly..
the car feels so much better now.
for the top of the shocks i used a ratcheting 15mm wrench and a spoke wrench to hold on with, it worked perfectly..
the car feels so much better now.
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Melting Slicks
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St. Jude Donor '08
completely worth the savings. the shocks I got look like they've never been installed and were claimed to have 6 miles on them. I paid $125 shipped to Canada. at less than half the cost of the parts alone, I would do this again
Last edited by 00 Rooster; Apr 26, 2010 at 11:54 PM. Reason: jerkiness :(
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Were the bushings loose on the old shocks? If both are the same and the bushings are worn, then the bushings would have been sloppy on the old shocks too. Just saying, why would the bushings that were fine on the old shocks suddenly appear bad on the new shocks?
My bushings on my old shocks were showing some wear but not worn out and I'd have no problem re-using them. And I'm thinking mine had more miles than yours at over 175,000km when I changed them. I took them off in case I needed them so I just have them on the shelf here. I had the top off one of my new rear shocks and they appeared to be about the same but I never really compared them closely. I still have to pull the other one apart - I'm cutting the bump stop in half for a little extra travel.
Can you post a picture of the disassembled shock assembly?
The dust boot should have a cupped shaped washer built-in that sits on a small round c-clip on the shock shaft. The bottom of the bushing sits in this cup shape. When you put it together, the top of the bushing should high enough that it covers part of the threaded section of the shock so that the nut can compress the bushing a certain amount.
Peter
My bushings on my old shocks were showing some wear but not worn out and I'd have no problem re-using them. And I'm thinking mine had more miles than yours at over 175,000km when I changed them. I took them off in case I needed them so I just have them on the shelf here. I had the top off one of my new rear shocks and they appeared to be about the same but I never really compared them closely. I still have to pull the other one apart - I'm cutting the bump stop in half for a little extra travel.
Can you post a picture of the disassembled shock assembly?
The dust boot should have a cupped shaped washer built-in that sits on a small round c-clip on the shock shaft. The bottom of the bushing sits in this cup shape. When you put it together, the top of the bushing should high enough that it covers part of the threaded section of the shock so that the nut can compress the bushing a certain amount.
Peter
Last edited by lionelhutz; Apr 25, 2010 at 02:37 PM.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Oilerville Edmonton
St. Jude Donor '08
Were the bushings loose on the old shocks? If both are the same and the bushings are worn, then the bushings would have been sloppy on the old shocks too. Just saying, why would the bushings that were fine on the old shocks suddenly appear bad on the new shocks?
My bushings on my old shocks were showing some wear but not worn out and I'd have no problem re-using them. And I'm thinking mine had more miles than yours at over 175,000km when I changed them. I took them off in case I needed them so I just have them on the shelf here. I had the top off one of my new rear shocks and they appeared to be about the same but I never really compared them closely. I still have to pull the other one apart - I'm cutting the bump stop in half for a little extra travel.
Can you post a picture of the disassembled shock assembly?
The dust boot should have a cupped shaped washer built-in that sits on a small round c-clip on the shock shaft. The bottom of the bushing sits in this cup shape. When you put it together, the top of the bushing should high enough that it covers part of the threaded section of the shock so that the nut can compress the bushing a certain amount.
Peter
My bushings on my old shocks were showing some wear but not worn out and I'd have no problem re-using them. And I'm thinking mine had more miles than yours at over 175,000km when I changed them. I took them off in case I needed them so I just have them on the shelf here. I had the top off one of my new rear shocks and they appeared to be about the same but I never really compared them closely. I still have to pull the other one apart - I'm cutting the bump stop in half for a little extra travel.
Can you post a picture of the disassembled shock assembly?
The dust boot should have a cupped shaped washer built-in that sits on a small round c-clip on the shock shaft. The bottom of the bushing sits in this cup shape. When you put it together, the top of the bushing should high enough that it covers part of the threaded section of the shock so that the nut can compress the bushing a certain amount.
Peter
thanks guys
the help is appreciated!!