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Old May 24, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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I'm fairly sure this is not a security issue-the car would not start at all or would die @ 2 MPH once in gear.
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Old May 24, 2010 | 02:09 PM
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I agree that Tech II + FSM is hard to beat! Back from my remote start install days, when the passkey bypass wasnt properly done, engine would not crank. But I will look into this to make sure how it works exactly. Can't wait to see the outcome of this one.
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Old May 24, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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Found some more usefull info on the passkey system in the FSM.

Vehicle Theft Deterrent (VTD) Description and Operation
PASS-Key System
The personal automotive security system (PASS-Key®) is standard equipment on the vehicle. The system is designed to prevent vehicle theft by disabling the engine unless an ignition key with a specific electrical resistance is used in the ignition cylinder. The PASS-Key® system and the content theft deterrent system operate separately.

There are 15 different ignition key resistance values. Of the 15 different resistance values, or key codes available, only one will work with each body control module (BCM). Once the key code is programmed into the BCM, the code is stored in non-volatile memory.

The PASS-Key® system prevents the engine from starting by controlling the theft deterrent relay and the powertrain control module (PCM) fuel enable input. If the PCM does not sense the proper fuel enable signal, fuel will not be provided to the engine.

If the wrong resistance value is sensed when the ignition switch is in the RUN position, the BCM will not ground the theft deterrent relay control circuit and will not provide the fuel enable signal for approximately three minutes. The engine is prevented from starting and discourages a thief from trying key codes or resistance values at random.

If the correct resistance value is sensed when the ignition switch is in the RUN position, the BCM will ground the theft deterrent relay control circuit and enable fuel delivery. The engine will start normally.

If the PASS-Key® system detects an open or short to ground when the ignition switch is in the RUN position, the BCM will default to fail enable mode. Fail enable occurs when the proper key resistance is sensed before the open short to ground occurs. Fail enable will illuminate the security indicator lamp and allow the operator to stop and start the vehicle until the problem is corrected. The PASS-Key® system includes the following components:

Ignition key
Ignition cylinder
Body control module (BCM)
Theft deterrent relay
Powertrain control module (PCM)
SECURITY indicator
Ignition Key
The ignition key is a typical square ignition key blank with an imbedded resistor. The key blank and resistor are not serviceable separately. There are 15 different resistance values. The ignition key also has mechanical cuts similar to non-PASS-Key® ignition keys.

Ignition Cylinder
The ignition cylinder contains a set of electrical contacts used to measure the resistor in the ignition key. When the ignition key is inserted into the lock cylinder, the resistor in the key makes contact with the electrical contacts inside the ignition cylinder.

Body Control Module
The Body Control Module (BCM) contains the theft deterrent system logic. The BCM reads the key code from the ignition cylinder when the ignition is turned to the START position. If the code is correct, the BCM will enable the theft deterrent relay and will send a fuel enable signal to the PCM via the class 2 serial data circuit.

If the BCM receives the wrong code, the BCM will immediately go into tamper mode. The tamper mode will lock-out the vehicle starter and fuel injectors for 3 minutes. The SECURITY indicator will flash while the BCM is in tamper mode.

Theft Deterrent Relay
The theft deterrent relay is used to prevent the engine from cranking if the correct resistance is not sensed at the ignition key. It prevents the engine from cranking by opening the circuit to the starter solenoid.

Powertrain Control Module
The PCM communicates with the BCM over the Class 2 serial data circuit. When the BCM enters tamper mode, it sends a Class 2 message to the PCM in order to disable the fuel injection system. If the BCM receives the expected ignition code, the BCM sends a class 2 message to the PCM in order to enable the fuel injection system. The PCM then allows the vehicle to start.

SECURITY Indicator
The SECURITY indicator is located on the instrument cluster. The SECURITY indicator is controlled by the BCM via the class 2 serial data circuit.
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Old May 27, 2010 | 07:59 PM
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i oulled the codes with the tech 2 today and this a list of codes, i was useing the moduss for the other codes. i dont use these very often so not the best with them. anyway the tech2 said the security light should be on but it is not showing on the dash, so that is a issue. going to hook back up to it tomarrow and do a relearn for security.

u1096
b0502
b0507
b2482
b2587
b2592
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Old May 27, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by shawn huether
i oulled the codes with the tech 2 today and this a list of codes, i was useing the moduss for the other codes. i dont use these very often so not the best with them. anyway the tech2 said the security light should be on but it is not showing on the dash, so that is a issue. going to hook back up to it tomarrow and do a relearn for security.

u1096 - Loss of communication with BCM
b0502 - RH DRL Relay Circuit
b0507 - LH DRL Relay Circuit
b2482 - Back-up Relay Circuit
b2587 - Column Lock / Unlock Drive (A)
b2592 - Column Lock / Unlock Drive (B)
Updated info. You appear to be having column lock issues. Get a column lock bypass and install it. I got mine from Corvettes of Houston.
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