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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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I've got a lead on a 2000 FRC that is in great shape The interior and exterior is spotless.The issue is the miles 114K.It runs well the maintence records show the car has been well taken care of.I can get the car very reasonably 12.5K.I was thinking of putting a good set of heads,cam and intake manifold.Or would it be worth it to put in a new motor say LS6 or a Texas speed 383 LS6? I'd appreciate any opinions.
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I've got a lead on a 2000 FRC that is in great shape The interior and exterior is spotless.The issue is the miles 114K.It runs well the maintence records show the car has been well taken care of.I can get the car very reasonably 12.5K.I was thinking of putting a good set of heads,cam and intake manifold.Or would it be worth it to put in a new motor say LS6 or a Texas speed 383 LS6? I'd appreciate any opinions.
Compression test and leak down test can be your guide.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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It'd be too many miles for me!
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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Nothing wrong with the car but the price doesn't reflect the mileage. Offer 8 and take 9.
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Originally Posted by XavierLT-4
I've got a lead on a 2000 FRC that is in great shape The interior and exterior is spotless.The issue is the miles 114K.It runs well the maintence records show the car has been well taken care of.I can get the car very reasonably 12.5K.I was thinking of putting a good set of heads,cam and intake manifold.Or would it be worth it to put in a new motor say LS6 or a Texas speed 383 LS6? I'd appreciate any opinions.
If it is well maintained as you say, 114K miles is nothing for an LS1. Run a compression check as Lucky suggested, pull any current or historical diagnostic codes and run an emmisions system check using a scan tool. This should give you an idea of how the PCM and powertrain controls are working. You can pull current and historical diagnostic trouble codes on C-5s using the installed driver information center (DIC), the procedure is in the owner's manual.
Use Edmunds TMV calculator to determine value, more realistic than KBB in my opinion.
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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If it is well maintained as you say, 114K miles is nothing for an LS1.


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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Nothing wrong with the car but the price doesn't reflect the mileage. Offer 8 and take 9.


I know values have gone down but sorry they are not in the 8-9 range for a C5 with just over 100k, especially the "rare" FRC.

Just did a search on Autotrader and there are only 6 C5's for sale in the whole country under $10,000 and they are all wrecked/salvage title....
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Old Jun 27, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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That engine is just getting broken in good at that milage.
I am at 223,500 on my 98 and have had no major problems at all.
water pump, oil pressure sending unit, ect....




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I've got a lead on a 2000 FRC that is in great shape The interior and exterior is spotless.The issue is the miles 114K.It runs well the maintence records show the car has been well taken care of.I can get the car very reasonably 12.5K.I was thinking of putting a good set of heads,cam and intake manifold.Or would it be worth it to put in a new motor say LS6 or a Texas speed 383 LS6? I'd appreciate any opinions.
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128k miles here with a supercharger making 512rwhp and 453rwtq on the original long-block and clutch. Don't let the miles scare you.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 02:17 AM
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I may have ONLY 83,000 miles on my '03 Z06, but if it keeps running like it has (and it is mildly modded engine-wise) another 100,000 will be a piece of cake. I just change the oil. $12,000 sounds okay if you like it. What can you possibly buy at that price that could possibly compare and have timeless good looks? Quite often people will ask me if my car is new.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 05:23 AM
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I honestly don't think the car is a steal at 12.5k. In Nov 2008 I purchased a 1999 FRC at a dealer for 14k with a A&A Vortech kit and B&B bullet exhaust. The car also had a full Alpine Stereo. The miles were 80k. Not that was a steal.

I would try to buy the car right around 11k.

If you do buy it. Check out my performance head/intake setup I am selling in the next couple of weeks. This setup plus long tubes and a tune will = 400 rwhp

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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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You could only buy a really beat down C5 for that around here and that mileage should not scare you.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 04:13 PM
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I'd rather you buy a nice EB Z06 off this board... from me!
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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My opinion. Miles are not a concern at all.
FRC are cheaper than other cars since there is very little demand for them. If your going with an FRC, get the Z06 for the engine, suspension, etc...
I think your waisting your time to buy an FRC and then trow money at the engine to try and get to the hp that a Z06 started with.
You can find Z06 cars fairly cheap as well.
Keep looking for a Z06.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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Not many clean C5's are $12 grand or less.

Kelly Blue Book has their head stuck up somewhere, but it sure isn't in the open market. Look at the normal prices... they aren't anywhere near as low as KBB or Edmunds lists... even NADA is a little off.

The price is decent, and the miles are nothing to be worried about.

Just check it out like any other used car purchase... compression and leakdowns are easy to say, but aren't mandatory unless you suspect an issue with the engine.

Good luck.
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...FRC are cheaper than other cars since there is very little demand for them. If your going with an FRC, get the Z06 for the engine, suspension, etc...
I agree somewhat, because yes the demand is less for a FRC. That being said, they are the rarest least produced C5, so if you want one there are less to chose from, thus supply to demand is tighter than with a Coupe or even a Z06.

I am a dealer and have my FRC on Autotrader to generate wholesale auction leads. The first question I ask them is are they specifically looking for a FRC. All the prospects from the last 3 calls I got (in a 6 week period) were specifically looking for a FRC (and not a Z06).

...I think your waisting your time to buy an FRC and then trow money at the engine to try and get to the hp that a Z06 started with.
You can find Z06 cars fairly cheap as well.
Keep looking for a Z06.
I would not mind getting into a Z06, but my very first Vette 11 years ago was a pewter FRC, so when I found the exact car (not vin, just exact Frc setup, color, wheels, etc) in '08 with only 47k, I had to pull the trigger!
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engine is fine for that mileage... other things might start to go though. i had torque tube bearings go out, clutch go out and rear end bearing went out all on mine that was at around 150K. mine was a little unusual to have that many things happen though. the engines are good to a LOT more miles than that

i have to agree though with everyone else. i bought a '99 with just over 100K on it 5 years ago for $13K. i can't imagine prices have held that close to the same for that long. maybe they have, i don't know. just offering my experience.
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Thanks guys for the great input.It all boils down to what you want to do.You buy a low mileage Z06 which I've been looking at on this forum.They range from 25K to 31K(in NicksZ case) .On the other hand you can get a higher mileage say a FRC The sky the limit on all the oppsions available LS6,LS3,etc.and probably end up with the same amount or more than likely more than the low mileage Z06.I sold a beautiful machine silver Trans-Am last year only had 7K when I bought it.When I sold it it had 14K.I was afraid to put to many miles on it.Didn't want to ruin the integrity by modding it.Don't know if I want to get into that situation again.Even if I got the lower mileage Z06 I'd drive the hell out of it..
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Originally Posted by XavierLT-4
I've got a lead on a 2000 FRC that is in great shape The interior and exterior is spotless.The issue is the miles 114K.It runs well the maintence records show the car has been well taken care of.I can get the car very reasonably 12.5K.I was thinking of putting a good set of heads,cam and intake manifold.Or would it be worth it to put in a new motor say LS6 or a Texas speed 383 LS6? I'd appreciate any opinions.
or if you had a way to get a good old calif, smog check because if it can pass that..it has to be in good cond, you would think.

or your next best would be to have done to it what Lucky said..because your not out here in calif..Good luck if you do buy it. sounds good.

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Really just need to look at the difference between a C5 Z06 and FRC

Ls6 vs Ls1 which A head swap/intake mainfold/cam and your there

Suspension FRC have Z51 which was the best offered at the time and it's not bad at all. Otherwise you can buy almost all of it for about $500.00 less the cost you sell the Z51 stuff for.

Wheels 99 FRC had ugly wagons which are worthless 2000 had thin spokes worth around $300.00 Z06 wheels now go for $500.00

Z06 screens $69.95 from a vendor Brake kit about $200.00 but you really dont need it

Z06 Clutch is better but an C6 Z06 replacement is $500.00

Z06 M6 vs M12 To be honest I like both for different reasons. The M6 will get killer mpg. The M12 really helps in the 1/4. It almost easier just to get 3.90's.

Hud is very rare on the FRC came standard in all 02+ Z06's

Active handling seems to be about 50% on Frc's All Z06 had the updated AH system.

It's easy and now somewhat cheap to make better then stock C5 Z06 performance on a FRC

The only thing some people can't get by is the badge. I honestly didn't car but I did get tired of people asking me about my old FRC if it was a Z06. When I told them no they sighed like it was a POS. Yeah a POS that put down 642 at the wheels and laughs a Stock C6 Z06's
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