Running warm
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Running warm
I've had my '97 C5 for a few months now. It seems to like to run warm anywhere between 190 to 220, even warmer on the track up to 230. Never had a problem with it overheating, but it seems too warm. I believe the stock thermostat is 185 or so. Should I be concerned? It's never leaked a drop of anything and never missed a lick. JC
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I've had my '97 C5 for a few months now. It seems to like to run warm anywhere between 190 to 220, even warmer on the track up to 230. Never had a problem with it overheating, but it seems too warm. I believe the stock thermostat is 185 or so. Should I be concerned? It's never leaked a drop of anything and never missed a lick. JC
If you want to lower your operating temperature during low speed operation you can either turn on the A/C or purchase a hand held programmer so you can re-program your fan settings.
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1st--Even though the temp gauge may say 220* it probably isn't that hot---As a tuner I see that GM always makes their temp gauges read hotter than the real temp---With my data logger 99% of the time it verifies that a gauge reading 210* is really only about 198*--GM does this in a weak attempt to scare you into letting the car cool down and not beating on it--
Also if you want to get it to run even cooler--i would inatall a 160* themostat in place of stock---It won't run that cold but nicely around 180* on the freeway and 200* around town on a HOT day---BUT unless you get the fan turn on temps adjusted you'll get minimal results even with a thermo change----with a 160* they should be set something like #1 on at 195--off at 185-- # 2 on at 205 off at 196
Do you have an automatic ?? If so and it seems like you take it to the track--what are your tranny temps when racing or on a hot day around town ?? If they hover over 200* for a long time --that is a ticking time bomb to early trans failure---I know some easy things to help cool it down--just ask---
Also if you want to get it to run even cooler--i would inatall a 160* themostat in place of stock---It won't run that cold but nicely around 180* on the freeway and 200* around town on a HOT day---BUT unless you get the fan turn on temps adjusted you'll get minimal results even with a thermo change----with a 160* they should be set something like #1 on at 195--off at 185-- # 2 on at 205 off at 196
Do you have an automatic ?? If so and it seems like you take it to the track--what are your tranny temps when racing or on a hot day around town ?? If they hover over 200* for a long time --that is a ticking time bomb to early trans failure---I know some easy things to help cool it down--just ask---
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Here is a link that you might find informative. http://www.vincihiperformance.com/LS...amshaft%20Life! Long article but scroll down to bottom of page.
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It seems we get at least 1 "I'm running too hot" thread per day in the summer. The reality is: by design the C5 runs between 192 to 196 out on the open road and will get up to 230 in traffic. The secondary fan kicks on at 226. That is NORMAL.
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FROM THE SERVICE MANUAL
C5 Cooling Fans Operation
The low speed cooling fan is commanded on when the coolant temperature reaches 108°C (226°F). It is turned off if the coolant temperature lowers to 104°C (219°F). The high speed cooling fan is commanded on when the coolant temperature reaches 113°C (235°F). It is turned off if the coolant temperature lowers to 108°C (226°F). When the A/C is on and the coolant temperature reaches 85°C (185°F), the low speed cooling fan will be turned on at vehicle speeds less than 56 kPh (35 mph).
C5 Cooling Fans Operation
The low speed cooling fan is commanded on when the coolant temperature reaches 108°C (226°F). It is turned off if the coolant temperature lowers to 104°C (219°F). The high speed cooling fan is commanded on when the coolant temperature reaches 113°C (235°F). It is turned off if the coolant temperature lowers to 108°C (226°F). When the A/C is on and the coolant temperature reaches 85°C (185°F), the low speed cooling fan will be turned on at vehicle speeds less than 56 kPh (35 mph).
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That's exactly what I am experiencing. Thank you all for taking time to respond. All info was right on and very helpful. Doesn't look like I'll be sweating the high temps (no pun intended). JC
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Since "Evil-Twin" was an engineer of the C5 and recomends And uses a 160* t-stat for his own car to run cooler from heat, i will trust his expertise and knowledge. I have 160's in both of our cars and very satisfied with the improvement.
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in wet weather
( One of the reasons i'm told for hot 200-235* water temps)
But this is simply not true----check your engine oil temps--even on a cold day after running for 15 min or so-even if the coolant is 180* the oil temps can be as warm as 240* in city traffic !!! And i checked this VS a car with a stock thermo in a similar situation and the oil temp was virtually the same !!
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Here is a link that you might find informative. http://www.vincihiperformance.com/LS...amshaft%20Life! Long article but scroll down to bottom of page.
I will now head for my foxhole.
I will now head for my foxhole.
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RE: the "article" concerning "engine coolant temps", i had to shake my head and laugh because these are opinions that have little merit. Statements should be disregarded when someone doesn't know that the computer pulls timing at 200*+ degrees and hurts horsepower and compares a ford with "lo and hi" marked on the temp gauge with lines in between showing all is well with the temp as long as the needle is in the lines. They refer to people wanting to run 165-180* with the vette as "old timers" who don't know about modern engines. It is also an old wives tale that a cooler running engine doesn't "burn off condensation", because oil temps still go up. "Evil-Twin"(C5 engineer) runs a 160* stat in his own car. I doubt if Anyone here thinks he is an "old timer"? Most "Tuners" require/ recommend 160 stats with their tunes. GM started installing high temp stats years ago for the Feds and emissions.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...post1557142528
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REDLINE "Water Wetter" is a surfactant and helps stabilize water temperatures as well as lubricate the water pump...
http://www.redlineoil.com/Products.aspx?pcid=10
Here's what a surfactant does (I didn't know what it did, either)...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant
That poor horse always takes a beating in warmer weather.
http://www.redlineoil.com/Products.aspx?pcid=10
Here's what a surfactant does (I didn't know what it did, either)...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant
That poor horse always takes a beating in warmer weather.
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REDLINE "Water Wetter" is a surfactant and helps stabilize water temperatures as well as lubricate the water pump...
http://www.redlineoil.com/Products.aspx?pcid=10
Here's what a surfactant does (I didn't know what it did, either)...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant
That poor horse always takes a beating in warmer weather.
http://www.redlineoil.com/Products.aspx?pcid=10
Here's what a surfactant does (I didn't know what it did, either)...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant
That poor horse always takes a beating in warmer weather.
Actually I do use Water Wetter in all my cars and you may go down a couple of degrees. Unfortunately, it is most effective with straight water and is used in racing applications. Our radiators need the protection that anti-freeze provides and in colder climates cars that sit outside need the anti-freeze protection.
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http://www.redlineoil.com/Products.aspx?pcid=10
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* Reduces or eliminates bubbles or vapor barrier that form on hot metal surfaces to reduce coolant temperatures by up to 20°
* Superior heat transfer properties compared to glycol-based antifreeze
* Compatible with new or used antifreeze (including DEX-COOL and long-life versions) to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems
* Improves heat transfer and reduces cylinder head temperature
Quote:
* Reduces or eliminates bubbles or vapor barrier that form on hot metal surfaces to reduce coolant temperatures by up to 20°
* Superior heat transfer properties compared to glycol-based antifreeze
* Compatible with new or used antifreeze (including DEX-COOL and long-life versions) to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems
* Improves heat transfer and reduces cylinder head temperature