Remember with LS1-Edit you are responsible for your own tuning, it is not canned like the others. Yes, the behavior you're looking for is easily replicated.



[Modified by ToplessTexan, 12:02 PM 3/24/2002]

 

You can duplicate the shift changes with Edit!!!

 

Roll my own via LS1-Edit, what else? :D :D :D I can help you a bit with what Cole does. '01-02 is still under development, expect early summer.

 

Someone on another board has/had a car at ARE and told me they were not using LS1-Edit yet but it was in the works. Dunno... Nick should be able to give you the straight story.

Reprogramming with LS1-Edit flashes the entire data segment, you are overwriting what's there not merging anything in at the time of programming. To retain any of your current tuning, you read it from the PCM, merge in your changes, and write it back. I think most tuners would (rightfully) operate on the "Not Invented Here" principle and be more likely to not even look at whatever tuning is there, start with a stock flash and then do their own thing.

 

Yup with LS1edit I was able to do that. With LS1edit you can have it shift like a baby on normal crusing and then shift hard and fast on WOT. :cheers:

 

MMS did my tuning and shifts are way firmer than before with the PLII.
I am happy with the current set up. I was running very rich with the PLII for some reason.

George

 

Buckmaster,

I feel for you buddy. Before I get off track, I know the 2001 LS1 software has been in beta testing for a month at SpeedWorks in Lewisville, TX. K&B MotorSports on the forum (that is his forum name) posted that they were doing some testing with the 2001 LS1 Edit and so far so good. Do a search on LS1 Edit possibly.

Now a bit off track, but not much. I have and Love The Powerloader II just as you do. I am looking at getting 3.42's and a TC of some kind, maybe a Yank3500. I still haven't decided about the flash stall of the TC yet and am still debating about the 3.42 upgrade, however, one thing I am not looking forward to is sending the Powerloader back for this reprogramming. Now when I got it last year, it came in 3 weeks to my doorstep. I was extremely Lucky! Now though, it seems that the orders are really stacking up. I am nervous to even send it in. If I stick with the Yank3000 like you have/had (don't know if you got your Yank3500 in yet?) then no reprogramming will probably be required and I'll get a shift kit either way.

Is Steve still working on the Powerloaders??? I know he was out of pocket for a while, but what is the latest. Why doesn't he get some help at TTS to get these orders done in a timely manner? I know he might want to protect his secrets, but there must be something he can do to help him with the Backed Up Orders. He would make a lot more money and his customers would be very happy. Hell, look at all of us who love the product and are willing to wait months, just to get it back. I mean if it took 6 weeks even, I'm sure everyone would be much happier. It is the uncertainty in the delivery that leaves everyone with the uncertainty of is it going to be 4 weeks or 9 months???????????? I love the firm downshifts and love the product. I am kinda stuck though since I like the Powerloader and have already paid for it. As far as my personal wishes for PL reprogramming, all I want to do in the near future is get 3.42 gears and some type of TC. Hopefully that is an easy change for Steve to make for my Powerloader. But if I had more mods coming like Heads/Cam etc. I would be nervous to send the unit back for fear of never getting it back.

Too Bad such a GREAT Product has so many customer service issues associated with it. I guess you either live with it or move on. Look at my times at the track with the limited mods I have. I don't know if it was all the Powerloader, but I'm sure it helped me get there!

Good luck BM

The Bandit..................




[Modified by 2001 Red Coupe Bandit, 6:18 PM 3/24/2002]

 

It's unfortunate we have to vendors like this. I too have sent my PLII over a month ago witn NO response from TTS..Poor Judy ..the woman is in the middle of this. It seems that Steve has his priorities and we just have to deal with him or go elsewhere for our programming. :rolleyes:

My car is scheduled for ARE heads/cam/pulley in a couple of weeks and there has been NO ackowlegement from Steve.I will have to go with Ed Wright or just wing it until the PLII comes in and delay my mod plans.That means putting off Mike Norris and ARE..It really sucks :confused:

I will tell you... getting back to your question,regardless whether the PLII is returned or not my new transmission and the Transgo have given me satisfaction that the PLII never has. The Transgo WILL help considerably with ANYBODY'S program. It's a mechanical mod and does not rely on the PLII to give you crisp immediate shifts.

I really did not want this thread to turn into a TTS flame but enough is enough :eek:

 

Just for the record, every time I have contacted Mr. Cole, I have been able to reach him or his email response has been rapid. In fact, just this weekend he replied to an email within just a few hours. That's more than I can say for a number of supporting tuners and vendors with whom I have spent way more money. :cry I must be in a very small minority in this regard...

IMHO, you guys with PLs in need of more extensive tuning would do well to just let it go and write off the investment you made in mail order programming and find another source for your tuning.

 

Rest assured that the transgo will pick up ALL the slack in the A4 shifts with ANY program. As I have mentioned before the PLII is a program that effects the electronic impulses to the transmission solenoids and line pressure...not mechanical.You should be just fine with alternate programming.The Transgo kit has an immediate effect on the shift itself not the shift points.I wouldn't worry about it IMO..:D

 

BuckMaster,

I was really wanting you to get The Powerloader back because I was waiting for you to do your mods also. I was looking into getting the 3.42's and a Yank 3500 if I decide to upgradce and get the 3.42 gears. If I do not get gears, I will stick with my 3.15's and get the Yank3000 like you.

You could have given me your experiences and opinions on the difference between the 2 set ups,

1. The 3.15's and Yank 3000

or

2. The 3.42's and a Yank3500?


Hope you get it figured out. Steve might see these posts and help you out if your lucky?!?!?!?!?!

Take care

The Bandit............

 

Yes the 01-02 is out in early adopter (beta) form at a couple of tuners in the country. Speedworks in Lewisville has the 01-02 LS1-Edit and so far, everything we've tried for this release has worked fine.

 

TT, I would disagree. I think most tuners are "very" interested in what other tuners have done in the PCM, and in fact generally "tweak" what's already in the car if it's a cole or wright program for example, and do not start with a stock flash. The reason is most of the folks are pretty happy with their program, but need some additional tuning or tweaking for new mods, or simply more performance.

I believe my car is the only one done by Speedworks where we went completely back to stock(assuming it was not already stock) and started from scratch.


[Modified by K&B Motorsports, 6:15 PM 3/25/2002]

 

I'm telling ya, Bandit, be a man and get the 3.42s and SY3500 w/the TransGo. Drop your times in the elevens, since you are already at 12.57.

 

Buckmaster---relax I just got mine out of ARE to-day Monday March 25 You know that I have the same thing done as you are having done. I cannot speak for coles stuff but all I can say is upon pick up after Wade and Nick did my stuff 3.42 Yank 3500--224/224/114 581 duration and on your advice I did the transgo shift kit and all I can say after ARE in house programe of the PCM this thing flys Shift sets you back in the seat and just touch the pedal and down she goes and hits very very very hard I almost lost it with traction control on doing 35klm hr and stood on it I had to shove my heart back in my chest and start breathing again. Upon street shifting just touch the pedal and down she goes. A normal start from stop and the shift kit slams the gears through all shifts I used 2 spacers. I have had no other PCM program other than ARE house system. I hope this will take your mind off things and coles B.S. You know how to get intouch with me off line. 373rwhp 427.5 torque. Incredible as it seems I just got home only drove 35 miles. Still breathing rapidly. :cheers: :D :D

 

Buckmaster,

I was really suprised at the firm shifts now. The PLII did not compare to this.
You can easily down shift without going WOT, as I rarely do go WOT in second now. I believe I payed 450 for the programing.

George

 

You can have your dealer flash your 01 or 02 computer to a 00 and LS1edit will be able to read it. Apparently the computer is the same between these years, but the tables are in different places. I think a GM dealer needs to use a Tech 2 to reflash it. LS1edit can edit the values in the table, but it can't physically move the tables around or reflash the entire PCM like a Tech 2 can.

I've had it about a month and it's a smooth product and worth the money, but it doesn't do everything.

 

Yeah, just forget about the Powerloader and go with the transgo kit and ARE programming.
Thats what I will be doing when I get my heads/cam put in.

 

Before the PL I used West Coast Corvettes programming; it did not have the quick downshift/throttle response that you mention (and I love). :D

 

I don't know whether you get assistance with LS1 Edit, but let me tell you, programming throttle response is tricky.

I sat through one of Steve's programming sessions, and he let me do my own settings, using his calculation tables. It got confusing and complicated. The good thing is, it's all logic. But, it does get tricky.

Considerations for the kick down affect:

MPH
Throttle position
Torque converter lock up
Torque converter un-lock

Just these four variables will confuse you. Make one change and it changes everything in the shift tables. For example, when you make a change in the down shift, you are also affecting the up-shift.

I don't know whether I made sense but those who have programmed their own shift tables may understand how confussing it may be...particularly if you don't do it everyday.

But it was fun and challenging.

Steve does an AWESOME job with his programming.