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Old Aug 12, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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I have read in several other forums that the 97-00 Corvettes came with 853 heads and that the 241 castings were on 01 and after LS1's. Is this fact, and so my 2000 has the 853 casting? What are the primary differences between the 853 casting and the 241 (flow rates, port/valve sizes???). Thanks.
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For what it's worth, there is "no difference" between the 853s and the 241s. Your '00 has 853s. the number is stamed near the bottom corner of the valvecover if you'd like to make sure.

It's upside down here, but @ the far left you can see "853" :

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Mine had 853's.
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i had the 853s on before I tossed them for AFR 205s
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Thanks guys. Plan on either LS6/243's or aftermarket heads at some point, just wanted to know if the 241's were an upgrade to the 853's.
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Originally Posted by alxltd1
Thanks guys. Plan on either LS6/243's or aftermarket heads at some point, just wanted to know if the 241's were an upgrade to the 853's.
If you're going for a budget GM head then go with 243's stock or CNC'd.

AFR's and Trickflow's are top notch but will cost much more.
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If you're going for a budget GM head then go with 243's stock or CNC'd.

AFR's and Trickflow's are top notch but will cost much more.
Agreed. The goal is to put 425HP to the wheels, so a set of ported 243's should do it with appropriate cam, valve train compoents, intake, throttle body, injectors, CAI, LT headers and tune. Then I will wait for the clutch to fail!
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i had the 853s on before I tossed them for AFR 205s
Hey Phil, you up to retune my pig after the mods are complete?
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Originally Posted by cptinjak
For what it's worth, there is "no difference" between the 853s and the 241s. Your '00 has 853s. the number is stamed near the bottom corner of the valvecover if you'd like to make sure.

It's upside down here, but @ the far left you can see "853" :

That looks like 835 to me.... Of course I tend to get dizzy when standing on my head... Okay, I turning my computer over and it still looks like 835...
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That looks like 835 to me.... Of course I tend to get dizzy when standing on my head... Okay, I turning my computer over and it still looks like 835...
could be lexdysia
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could be lexdysia
835. I see it too.

And the difference between 853 heads and 241 is the casting method. The semi-permanent molds on the 241/243s were a bit more uniform than the sandcasted early heads and it's been said in a couple magazine articles a few years back to have a 4-7 rwhp difference because of it.... even though the specs are similar.

The deal with the (stock) 243s are the minor port changes and higher compression... although once ported 241s and 243s are very similar if the CC and others specs are kept identical to each other.
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Those are 035 castings, which are 6.0l LQ9 truck heads. (equivalent to 317 castings). Never came stock on any LS1 or C5.

There is no such thing as an 835 casting, plus the D-shaped exhaust port of those pictured give them away as a large-runner factory head. (which narrows it down to a 243, 799, 317, or 035 casting).
The 6.0 heads are basically just large chamber (71cc) versions of the LS6 heads, many choose to use them on FI LS1 applications where lowering compression can be beneficial.
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Those are 035 castings, which are 6.0l LQ9 truck heads. (equivalent to 317 castings). Never came stock on any LS1 or C5.

There is no such thing as an 835 casting, plus the D-shaped exhaust port of those pictured give them away as a large-runner factory head. (which narrows it down to a 243, 799, 317, or 035 casting).
The 6.0 heads are basically just large chamber (71cc) versions of the LS6 heads, many choose to use them on FI LS1 applications where lowering compression can be beneficial.
I've seen that bit of wisdom somewhere else before. Things you can learn in a Barn huh.
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Originally Posted by alxltd1
Agreed. The goal is to put 425HP to the wheels, so a set of ported 243's should do it with appropriate cam, valve train compoents, intake, throttle body, injectors, CAI, LT headers and tune. Then I will wait for the clutch to fail!
You could get 425 at the tire by porting your 853's and adding larger valves with the other supporting mods you listed. Thats a very easy and obtainable power level. in the end it would probably be cheaper then porting 243 heads too once you factor in the cost of a core. unless you already have a set of 243 heads.
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You could get 425 at the tire by porting your 853's and adding larger valves with the other supporting mods you listed. Thats a very easy and obtainable power level. in the end it would probably be cheaper then porting 243 heads too once you factor in the cost of a core. unless you already have a set of 243 heads.
I dont have a set of 243's, but have seen ported and upgraded 241's (used) for about $800 for the pair. That included upgraded valves, springs, rockers, retainers etc. Given the price of getting and then porting/upgrading a set of 243's may be close if not more than double that price I may go the 241 route or port and upgrade the 853's on the engine now.
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Originally Posted by alxltd1
I dont have a set of 243's, but have seen ported and upgraded 241's (used) for about $800 for the pair. That included upgraded valves, springs, rockers, retainers etc. Given the price of getting and then porting/upgrading a set of 243's may be close if not more than double that price I may go the 241 route or port and upgrade the 853's on the engine now.
i have an extra set of 853s right now i can get them ported, bigger valves retainers, springs all ready to rock for 1750 plus shipping. I got a guy in WA state who does spectacular work. hes been porting heads forever and is pretty well known for his LSx head work. he can even spec out a cam to match the heads and get you to and probably beyond your power levels. something like this..









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