For those who have this, can you answer a few questions.

How hard is it to use? Is the software user friendly enough that I don't have to be a GM mechanic to understand it?

Currently using the powerloader program and now want to change gears and torque converter, can I just "tweak" the TTS program to compensate for the gear change? Very scared about sending my powerloader back for reprogramming and never seeing it again.

$550 is a big pill to swallow especially after spending the money on the powerloader, but if the software is easy to use and understand, it may worth it.

Any other comments from those who are using this, please chime in.

 

The software is not too hard to drive and I'm a horrid end user. :D OTOH, there are the technical aspects of the system you're trying to manipulate that you need to become familiar with.

The current version, 1.04, does not have gear scaling for the C5. The next release, 1.05, does. Gear scaling changes several tables at once (in addition to some behind the scenes stuff.) You can replicate this for the most part in 1.04 by manually changing the relevant tables. Even I managed to do that successfully. ;) Assuming you can read your current flash, a pretty safe assumption if you play the odds, you should indeed be able to tweak it.

It's a tool, not tuning. As such, you get value out if it each time you use it, amortizing the cost. If you're going to keep the car for some time and it will evolve, LS1-Edit looks like a good investment. (There's not really any way to quantify the value of doing your own tuning and learning more about your car, but it's real. For me that's worth more than any HP gains I might stumble across.) If you like one shot and be done with it turn-key solutions, mail order may be better.

Of course, I'm an LS1-Edit fan - "Power to the People!" :smash: :smash: :smash:

 

ToplessTexan, I too have LS1_Edit and I need to program my 3:73 gears. Can you give me some more info on the scaling and gear tables for what you have done? I have a 99' vette with 2600 T/C. thanks

David

 

I started with the stock tables and multiplied all the speed entries in relevant tables by 3.15/3.73 (i.e. OldGear/NewGear) :) Same for WOT shift points. I've since dorked around with it more, mainly for TC related stuff, but that's the gear scaling. You might also want to disable P1870 until 1.05 ships.

 

I'm new with the Edit, and I'm confused with the math. How do you know which tables are relevant? Where did you get the stock tables and how did you disable the P1870 code? Do you just toggle it off? :confused:

 

The most relevant tables are all the shift speed (normal, performance, cruise,... they were all the same in my stock flash) and TCC apply/release tables. In addition to the tables there are the WOT shift speeds too.

The stock tables are in the flash I downloaded from the PCM.

Yes, I just toggled that code off. May have also changed it's MIL status too. Again, this is only a temporary workaround until we get hold of 1.05 and can relax the diagnostic parameters to allow more slip without test failure.

BTW, I think A4 tuning is a great place to start with LS1-Edit tuning. There's a limited number of things to focus on and changes can be pretty easily felt.

:cheers:


[Modified by ToplessTexan, 11:48 PM 4/5/2002]

 

Thanks for all the good info. I'll add you to my "buddy" list! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Guys,

I'm very interested in LS1 edit. While I'm no rocket scientist, like you guys, I'm commited to learning how to tune my LS1 and use the tools now available.

I take it from the discussion that this only applies to A4 cars?

This is also where I'm a little confused about "the tools" LS1 edit is to change the program that previously had to be sent off to be done. But there is also "reprogrammer's like Hypertech and Autotap, which I understand is needed also.

What is the difference? and do these apply more to A4 cars than MN6's

 

What about programming the tire hight, gears and WOT shift points with HPP3 and then do the rest with LS1 edit??

Would that work?

Michael

 

Autotap is not a tuning tool. It's diagnostic only. LS1 Edit is a PCM Programmer which let's the owner reprogram the computer which controls the car computer.

 

You can program for tire sizes, gear changes etc with LS1 Edit. If you have LS1 Edit, you don't need the HPP3 or any other plug in.

 

You CAN NOT program tire hight and gears with LS 1 edit, yet!!
That´s the point.

I know it will be able to do it with the next version, but NOT YET!!

That`s why I asked if I can use the HPP3 settings for gears and tirehight until LS1 edit can do it.

Michael

 

Actually, yes you can program for the gears. It's on the gear/tire tab. It applies the changes dynamically across a number of tables if done there. I've done it on my A4 and others to adjust the shift points. As TT said, you can also go into the individual tables and make percentage changes to a specific table like for shift points.

Bill


[Modified by K&B Motorsports, 7:59 AM 4/6/2002]

 

I must get something wrong here.:confused:
Carputing told me tire and gear scaleing doesn´t work yet (version 1.04).
It should come with Version 1.05.

But as TT said it is possible to program for it in an other way.
Now if that works, then I´m happy!! :cheers:

Michael


[Modified by Austrian Vette, 4:33 PM 4/6/2002]

 

You can for example in the tire/gears tab set 3.42 gears to replace the 3.15's (which I did) and it will apply to multiple tables. You can also go table by table which I ultimately did to refine my shift points.

I've used every version from 0.93 through my latest which I got last night 1.05b (which has some really new cool stuff we'll be trying at the track today)

Bill

 

Bill, thanks for the info :cheers:

Good to hear!!

Michael

 

No problem Michael,

The very early versions of the software (beta) went back and forth a couple of times on in or out with the gear/tire stuff, but since about 0.98 it's been there.

Bill

 

I beg to differ. Gear and tire scaling is certainly there for F-body but not for Corvette. Gear scaling is present in the 1.05 beta, tire scaling is not. The ground has been covered before whether or not there are feature differences between the unlimited and PCM-locked versions and Carputing's position is there are no differences. More than one C5 user has been annoyed that this advertised feature was not implemented in the version they were shipped. In any event, it shouldn't be a showstopper for most.

With respect to the question of utilizing the HPP3 for some of this, yes you can do this. What you cannot do is merge subets of the flash at the time of program (i.e. part from the HPP3, part from a MicroTuner, part from... ) Just adjust your HPP3 flash as necessary, read it from the PCM w/ LS1-Edit's programmer and save that file, and recover the HPP3 programming from the PCM to the HPP3 unit. You can now make additional changes as necessary to the file you created and flash to your PCM.

 

Kurt - check your email :D