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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 05:50 PM
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Just curious if you guys can offer some thoughts about getting rid of wheel hop.

I don't know what's out the for the C5 in the way of suspension parts to help this condition.

The only ideas I am coming up with might be poly bushings and stiffer shocks.

Thanks for your ideas
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 05:54 PM
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i dont get wheel hop, only thing i have done is bilstien sport shocks, bigger sways, poly sway bushings, lowered, and also on bigger rims, smaller tires...im not sure what exactly gets rid of it..but lower profile tires will not do it as much since they will be a harder tire...hopefully someone chimes in.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 06:02 PM
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I think I'm just gonna focus on making everything as tight as I can. Poly bushings, stiffer sway bars, stiffer shocks, even solid motor mounts hehehehe =D Everything is gonna be tight.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 06:39 PM
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Better tires.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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Better tires.
Well, I like your thinking. However, tires will either allow it to stick or spin more easily. If the stick and do not spin then of course there will be no wheel hop. If the spin, then it just a matter of traction. Too little and no wheel hop, some "grabbing" and there's the wheel hop.

I want to increase the effectiveness and efficiency of my suspension to greatly reduce the wheel hop effect.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by manley845
Well, I like your thinking. However, tires will either allow it to stick or spin more easily. If the stick and do not spin then of course there will be no wheel hop. If the spin, then it just a matter of traction. Too little and no wheel hop, some "grabbing" and there's the wheel hop.

I want to increase the effectiveness and efficiency of my suspension to greatly reduce the wheel hop effect.
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If the SIMPLE answer is better tires-why muddy the water??
Wheel hop is more about the tire loosing/gaining traction over and over. Go get better tires.
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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Pfadt C5 Transmission Brace Hold the powertrain in place like never before with our uniquely designed transmission brace. Our mounts reduce the massive powertrain shake (sometimes mistaken as wheel hop) that is common in the C5.

Hope this helps http://www.pfadtracing.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/100
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Old Dec 16, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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Thr truth is that any car can wheelhop when you spin em hard enough. Search the web and you'll find complaints about it from Mustang, Honda, even Toyota trucks... You gotta limit the wheelspin.
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Pfadt diff brace, ECS trans brace, pfadt solid motor mounts. That should hold the powertrain together pretty well
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Originally Posted by Chris Stewart
Thr truth is that any car can wheelhop when you spin em hard enough. Search the web and you'll find complaints about it from Mustang, Honda, even Toyota trucks... You gotta limit the wheelspin.
I get wheel hop as soon as the tires start to spin, and its pretty violent.
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Pfadt C5 Transmission Brace Hold the powertrain in place like never before with our uniquely designed transmission brace. Our mounts reduce the massive powertrain shake (sometimes mistaken as wheel hop) that is common in the C5.

Hope this helps http://www.pfadtracing.com/catalog/p...roducts_id/100
That’s an awesome idea!!! Thanks

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Pfadt diff brace, ECS trans brace, pfadt solid motor mounts. That should hold the powertrain together pretty well
Sean’sC5 just directed me to Pfadt’s site. I’m gonna check them out.

Originally Posted by Chris Stewart
Thr truth is that any car can wheelhop when you spin em hard enough. Search the web and you'll find complaints about it from Mustang, Honda, even Toyota trucks... You gotta limit the wheelspin.
Very true, but there are ways to limit wheel hop which is what I’m going after. Just as deteriorated control arm bushings can worsen the condition, stiffer bushings can lessen the condition. I like what has been mentioned about the tranny brace.

Yeah, now that I think about it, part of the shaking is probably due to “loose” drivetrain components. I’ve noticed something “funny” about my car and had come to the conclusion that either the suspension or drivetrain needs to be “stiffened up”, or both systems do. I think I have some upgrades ahead of me. Tranny brace, bushings, solid motor mounts, shocks, and sway bars. Cant wait!!!!!
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To muddy the water even more... Coilovers completely eliminated my wheelhop with no other changes, same tires, bushings ect.
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And I get no wheel hop with a stock suspension-the easy 1st stop is TIRES.
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by manley845
Just curious if you guys can offer some thoughts about getting rid of wheel hop.

I don't know what's out the for the C5 in the way of suspension parts to help this condition.

The only ideas I am coming up with might be poly bushings and stiffer shocks.

Thanks for your ideas
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Just search "wheel hop". You can read about ideas for days.
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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I upgraded to C5 Z06 shocks and it help out a lot.
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 04:02 PM
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trans brace, diff brace, half shafts, tires, sway bars, shocks, springs, end links, bushings.

you might get lucky and just one of these things could fix the hop. you may also have to play around with several of these options (most likely) to get rid of it.
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
And I get no wheel hop with a stock suspension-the easy 1st stop is TIRES.
Yes, tires would help to a apoint, but only if they stuck much better or were more prone to spinning.

Wheel hop is more to do with the suspension not controling the power and tires. Generally, if there is wheel hop occuring something is not fuctioning or set-up to functioning in hard accel applications.

Even with sticky tires many cars have the power to spin them on a hard launch, and if wheel spin does occur it is still possible for wheel hop to follow. If the suspension and other factors are not equipped to handle the condition.

I am finding out that with C5's it seems that drivetrain shake is what is probably going on. Which I'm sure is leading to wheel hop also.

I will probably add the diff/tranny brace, solid motor mounts, poly bushings, and maybe shocks.

What I experienced was actually much more severe than any wheel hop I have encountered before, so I imagine that it really is drivetrain shake.

I wouldn't change the design of the C5's suspension, but it would be neat if a product was available for it that acted as "lift bars". I had a set of SSM Lift Bars on my 68 Cutlass and that helped a lot on launches. The body lifted slightly and the tires planted to the ground and off she went. 14.9 @ 98mph with no posi, th-350, 2.93:1 gears (I think), and a cheap 350 chevy with 882 heads, flat-top pistons, and "RV" cam (never knew the specs). Not bad for a big piece of junk
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Old Dec 17, 2010 | 10:57 PM
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Well, my 2001 C5 track car and my 2007 C6 Z06 both wheel hop. I purchased the Pfadt rear brace ($300) for the C5 but after both the front and rear Pfadt sway bar billet ends broke I dumped the rear brace in the trash before installing it (went to T1 bars as well) so cannot say if the brace works. I do not use Pfadt products anymore either.

I run Hoosiers on the C5 and Michelin Pilot Sport 2 on the C6 Z06 so not sure I agree with "better tires" as a cure. Still have wheel hop when I romp on it. Don't believe there is a cure. Just ease into it a bit more and limit or eliminate the wheel hop that way.
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Depending on type road, type tires, suspension, and outdoor temperature, IMO any vette can wheel hop on severe acceleration. My vette starts this bad habit when the temps drop to the 30s and 40s. In addtion, the harder compound Goodyear run flats hopped more under accelaration and cold weather than my PS2s did. I was able to minimize the wheel hop after I lowered my vehicle, had a comp 4 corner alignment, swapped over to the Mich PS2s I mentioned, increased sway bar size, swapped out to a thicker tunnel shield, and added C6Z06 shocks. BTW, I think VBP used to offer different alignments for different model vettes and types of driving, not sure if they still do or not. I did the sway bars, lowering, and shock replacement on the first mods, and later the PS2s and even larger sway bars. Each phase appeared to progressively impact wheel hop. I feel that with each additional stiffening and alignment the wheel hop continued to lessen. With that said, I still can get into a wheel hop in cold weather on hard accelarations. Once this starts, I immediately do what others have suggested on the forum and that is to let off the gas immediately. Wheel hop can do some bad things to your rear end, axles, and other components, and that means $$$. That's about the best advice I can give. Hope this helps.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBJQq...eature=related

Is this wheel hop?

Sounds like what i've read
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