C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (BROKEN SUSPENSION)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 01:42 PM
  #41  
jw38's Avatar
jw38
Team Owner
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,569
Likes: 35
From: Spring Branch TX
St. Jude Donor '14,'18,'21
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (BatMobile)

BatMobile: Tell us who you've been talking to at GM and then post the name and phone number on the forum. Then everyone on the forum can call on your behalf!!! 10,000 calls ought to open their eyes!!!! :mad :mad :mad
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 01:55 PM
  #42  
Johnny Reb's Avatar
Johnny Reb
Instructor
 
Joined: Apr 2000
Posts: 166
Likes: 0
From: CA
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (BatMobile)

My vert.....DOB April 26, 2000...Sequence #027903...VIN #127837 :eek:


[Modified by Johnny Reb, 10:44 AM 4/11/2002]
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 03:07 PM
  #43  
BatMobile's Avatar
BatMobile
Thread Starter
Team Owner
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 29,564
Likes: 0
From: Nassau NP
Tropical Moderator
Cruise-In 1-5 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'10-'11
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (Johnny Reb)

Hey Johnny,

Got your e-mail...thanks.

Will keep everyone posted.

Neill
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 03:23 PM
  #44  
TTRotary's Avatar
TTRotary
Race Director
 
Joined: Jan 2000
Posts: 12,375
Likes: 406
From: Florida
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (BatMobile)

The fact is ALL major corporations behave the same way in situations like this. The Explorer/Firestone debacle is typical of this. They wait until they have a huge lawsuit on their hand before they act. And they are NEVER motivated out of anything other than short term (VERY short term) minimization of costs.

Do the right thing for the customer??? FORGET it.

So Neill will have to sue. The good news is Neill that you will have tort lawyers knocking your door down to get this business and they will happily do it on retainer because (1) the suit is very likely to be successful (juries always side with the underdog in these cases, and you are tiny compared to GM), (2) the punitive damage component of the suit is potentially enormous (millions), and (3) GM has deep pockets, so executing the judgement (getting paid) will be successful. Most likely, GM will offer to settle way before this, for a substantial sum.

The bad news: Neill will feel bad doing this, because he has a conscience, unlike GM. Believe me Neill, you're doing the right thing here. And it's you or GM at this point. Good luck.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 03:33 PM
  #45  
BatMobile's Avatar
BatMobile
Thread Starter
Team Owner
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 29,564
Likes: 0
From: Nassau NP
Tropical Moderator
Cruise-In 1-5 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'10-'11
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (TTRotary)

Yeah...I will feel bad even if successful. I'm a passive person at the worst of times. Hate that it will come down to it. But, the beauty of the US legal system is that I can get some pitbull to make themselves a royal pain in the butt for GM. Sit back and watch the sparks fly.

Neill
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 03:51 PM
  #46  
BatMobile's Avatar
BatMobile
Thread Starter
Team Owner
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 29,564
Likes: 0
From: Nassau NP
Tropical Moderator
Cruise-In 1-5 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'10-'11
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (chuckster)

Neill, Try Willie Gary in Stuart Florida. He is known as the Giant Killer.
I bet he'd froth at the mouth for this one. Big corporation taking advantage of little old joe citizen...
Just looked up his bio on the net...

hehehe

Sounds like he could be a good one to go for.

Neill
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 04:22 PM
  #47  
BatMobile's Avatar
BatMobile
Thread Starter
Team Owner
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 29,564
Likes: 0
From: Nassau NP
Tropical Moderator
Cruise-In 1-5 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'10-'11
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (BatMobile)

OK...so let's see...

Help me out here gang...

So far on my list, due to GM's little factory defect, I will have to incur the following...

Shipping fees...
Rental car fees...
Diminished value of the car due to significant frame repair...
Lack of faith in the car as being a 'sound' vehicle. Can't trust it to perform at 100% again...
Pain...anguish...frustration?
Punitive damages?

Keep em coming...

Honestly...it is coming down to the fact that I will probably insist for a buy back from GM of some sort. It really comes down to the fact that as much as I love this car, I no longer feel safe pushing it to it's design limits, for fear of another failure. If I can't use it to its design limits, one of the joys of owning the car, I don't want it.

There has to be a legal argument in there somewhere.

I'm open to some more suggestions...unless that is not 'recommended'.

Neill
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 04:41 PM
  #48  
Red Gump's Avatar
Red Gump
Race Director
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 18,016
Likes: 0
From: sebring florida
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (BatMobile)

you forgot therapy sessions to help you cope with this tragic event. :jester add in the stress of potential dates lost due to no vette and I'm sure a jury would be on your side (not that you need a vette to pick up chicks to begin with, I'm just saying). :D
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-9

Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 06:18 PM
  #49  
YellaFella's Avatar
YellaFella
Le Mans Master
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 9,101
Likes: 0
From: Richwood Kentucky
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (nevadacoin)

If GM gave a rats behind, they would have a rep.s answering question on CF and on a regular bases. Would not cost much and would score on customer loyalty. When it comes to customer service, GM does not have a clue.

In this case, they should do what is reasonable and offer the repair at the nearest GM dealership. Any shipping from that point, they should cover. AND I'll just bet that a good customer service rep, could get that done AND make you feel good about it by treating you right.

Why is it GM constantly comes off as if they could care less?????? GM Where are you, TALK TO THE FORUM.... THE FORUM CAN HELP YOU .......brand layalty shoudl be earned...... :mad
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 07:35 PM
  #50  
MDL-01C5's Avatar
MDL-01C5
Safety Car
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 4,786
Likes: 0
From: God Bless America
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (YellaFella)

Hey Neill-- guess this means another rental at the Cruise-In...
You really need to slam these uncaring and irresponsible people with a hungry attourney. This is important not only for you and your situation, but I want to know if there is an inherent problem with MY car, and the hundreds of buddies here on the forum, who drive C5's as well!!!
Unless you take extreme action, not a single person in GM is going to look further into this than your specific case, and then only as far as getting it fixed cheap and shutting you up--
These useless Cavalier seller/fixers need to be shocked into action, and you have the switch in your hand---
Use it, bro :yesnod: :smash: :smash: :cheers:
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2002 | 08:55 PM
  #51  
daveydc5's Avatar
daveydc5
Racer
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 366
Likes: 0
From: Antioch, CA
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (BatMobile)

Does GM know that this is being discussed here on the forum? Seems like they would want the positive PR by doing you right. You should forward them a link to this, and the previous thread so they can see how visible this problem is in the Vette community. Good luck, man. We are all pulling for ya.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2002 | 12:21 AM
  #52  
Moundir's Avatar
Moundir
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,835
Likes: 0
From: NY
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (daveydc5)

I think if he was to forward them the link, they would just ignore it. :mad I wish you the best, and know you will this lawsuit. Do it for us all Neil :cheers:
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2002 | 12:25 AM
  #53  
BatMobile's Avatar
BatMobile
Thread Starter
Team Owner
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 29,564
Likes: 0
From: Nassau NP
Tropical Moderator
Cruise-In 1-5 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'10-'11
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (Moundir)

Psssssst.....

GM knows damn well this link exists.

They also have all my contact details.

Come Monday morning 9am, point of no return, legal counsel is let loose.

:rolleyes:

Neill
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2002 | 02:46 AM
  #54  
AVETTE's Avatar
AVETTE
Melting Slicks
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 1999
Posts: 3,071
Likes: 939
From: Apex NC
Cruise-In II Veteran
Cruise-In III Veteran
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (BatMobile)

Give em' hell..... You will WIN... Keep us posted, I would love to see the General take it up the a#@ big time!
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2002 | 02:53 AM
  #55  
AVETTE's Avatar
AVETTE
Melting Slicks
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 1999
Posts: 3,071
Likes: 939
From: Apex NC
Cruise-In II Veteran
Cruise-In III Veteran
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (BatMobile)

GM's way of looking at things....

Bean counting, bean counting, uh, hm, did I mention bean counting :lol:

Oh, that's rightttt are flagship the corvette, how should we treat it? Hmmm, I got it, let's disrespect it at the Chicago Auto Show (and every other major auto show) by not even giving it a CHEAP stinking platform of any type, nah, lets just set it side by side with that cheap as* cavalier. Yeah, that's a good one duhhhhhh..... :bs :bs Oh you mean the 50TH ANNIVERSARY is coming, special wheels? Special engine option? Upgraded interior? Special options of ANY kind, no, no, like previous 'anniversary' joke editions before, let's give it some stinking badges and paint the wheels. GM YOU ARE A JOKE and a DISGRACE... Your marketing SUCKS A**. Will you EVER get a clue, I thought not?

And for the final disgrace.... Lets insult, ignore, and deny responsibility for a potentially life threating SEVERE defect. OVER SHIPPING COSTS??????? You make me, and dare I say, EVERY member of this forum want to :U :U :U

Get a TEAM of lawyers and hit em where it hurts.... Good luck.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2002 | 08:19 AM
  #56  
Allthrottleandsomebottle's Avatar
Allthrottleandsomebottle
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
25 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 16,935
Likes: 26
From: Lackey, my own dragstrip VA.
Virginia Events Coordinator
Cruise-In IV Veteran
Cruise-In V Veteran
Cruise-In VI Veteran
Cruise-In VII Veteran
NCM Ambassador
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (BatMobile)

Hey Bat,
I just got a call from the Executive HQ @ GM over the letter I sent to Mr. Jack Smith.............
Interesting conversation on my Brake failure issue.............:D
Do you want some background and POC's from there?
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2002 | 08:32 AM
  #57  
BatMobile's Avatar
BatMobile
Thread Starter
Team Owner
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 29,564
Likes: 0
From: Nassau NP
Tropical Moderator
Cruise-In 1-5 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'10-'11
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (ALLTHROTTLE&NOBOTTLE)

By all means...

Hit me with the good stuff!!

Neill
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (BROKEN SUSPENSION)

Old Apr 12, 2002 | 10:35 AM
  #58  
BatMobile's Avatar
BatMobile
Thread Starter
Team Owner
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 29,564
Likes: 0
From: Nassau NP
Tropical Moderator
Cruise-In 1-5 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'10-'11
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (BatMobile)

Just escalated it to another level...

;)

Will post more when I am able to
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2002 | 10:59 AM
  #59  
Jim 47's Avatar
Jim 47
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2000
Posts: 2,483
Likes: 1
From: Wilmington DE
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (BatMobile)

GM must select their Executives and decission makers from the College of Penny Wise and Pound Foolish. :cuss :mad

WAKE UP GM, There are a lot of other options for us Corvette owners out there. :smash: :smash: And, some of us may even be interested in buying a family car or Van or Truck, and guress what, THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER OPTIONS OUT THERE FOR US. :yesnod: :yesnod:

Get your act in order and step up to the plate of responsibility, or the thousands of people on this Forum could cost you a lot more than the $2000 of shipping costs in question. :mad :mad
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2002 | 06:39 PM
  #60  
BatMobile's Avatar
BatMobile
Thread Starter
Team Owner
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 29,564
Likes: 0
From: Nassau NP
Tropical Moderator
Cruise-In 1-5 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'10-'11
Default Re: ***UPDATE*** Let the wars begin... (Jim 47)

Get your act in order and step up to the plate of responsibility, or the thousands of people on this Forum could cost you a lot more than the $2000 of shipping costs in question. :mad :mad
We even get better dealership support out of Ford down here for our delivery trucks...bought second hand out of the US, then imported. No questions asked, they fix it. Granted, this situation is a bit different, they can't fix it here...it HAS to go to the US. But still, the Ford dealership here is first class...the GM dealership down here doesn't stand a chance.

Sad, but true.

Neill
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:47 PM.

story-0
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-2
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-5
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-9
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE