trans install issue
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Melting Slicks
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From: Dublin GA
trans install issue
Installing my new trans and have run into a problem. The part that bolts to the diff. is completely different. The old one has the round snout with an o-ring to keep fluid in. The new one does not (Looks completely different) What the heck??
I have a PM phot I can send to anyone that can help
Thanks
I have a PM phot I can send to anyone that can help
Thanks
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Melting Slicks
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From: Dublin GA
It does look like the wrong trans, but can't tell WHICH trans. Doesn't look like an F-body for what photos I can see
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It is the correct transmission. It is a later case design. The "puck" in the back of the old transmission needs removed and installed in the new transmission. The round disk on the back of your old transmission with the red sealer around it, needs to come out and be installed in the new transmission. It just pulls out of the back of the old transmission and pushes into the new one.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Dublin GA
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
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From: Dublin GA
It is the correct transmission. It is a later case design. The "puck" in the back of the old transmission needs removed and installed in the new transmission. The round disk on the back of your old transmission with the red sealer around it, needs to come out and be installed in the new transmission. It just pulls out of the back of the old transmission and pushes into the new one.
Why does the "bolt pattern" look so diffrent than the earlier verson?
Racer
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From: Braselton GA
It is the correct transmission. It is a later case design. The "puck" in the back of the old transmission needs removed and installed in the new transmission. The round disk on the back of your old transmission with the red sealer around it, needs to come out and be installed in the new transmission. It just pulls out of the back of the old transmission and pushes into the new one.
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No problem. Hope you got it all figured out. The manual cars are very straight forward, but the autos had a few changes from 97-05. Sorry I wasn't around yesterday afternoon. I had some prior obligations. If you need anything else just let me know.
Racer
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Quick update on this. Everything is together, but we aren't getting anything pumping. There is no fluid coming through the lines, and the wheels aren't spinning the with the car idling up on the lift. The trans has a little over a gallon in it, a little over a qt came out of the TC when removed, and I put almost 1 qt back in it.
I am a manual guy, but know enough about auto's to know everything should be "there". When I mated the TC/torque tube to the trans I wiggled the TC through a couple of the normal "clicks" you have to get when mating up the TC to the trans shaft. Everything pulled together with norm effort on the case halfs, so I am fairly certain the TC and pump are engaged.
am I missing something?
is the normal procedure for mounting the TC is removing it from the torque tube first, then mating it to the torque flex plate after? I don't think this would have made a material difference as everything seemed to click in place fine.
from here what should be the next thing to check? try to unbolt the TC from the torque tube flex plate, and try to re-seat? I guess at this point I am just trying to diagnose the pumping issue (or lack there of)
I am a manual guy, but know enough about auto's to know everything should be "there". When I mated the TC/torque tube to the trans I wiggled the TC through a couple of the normal "clicks" you have to get when mating up the TC to the trans shaft. Everything pulled together with norm effort on the case halfs, so I am fairly certain the TC and pump are engaged.
am I missing something?
is the normal procedure for mounting the TC is removing it from the torque tube first, then mating it to the torque flex plate after? I don't think this would have made a material difference as everything seemed to click in place fine.
from here what should be the next thing to check? try to unbolt the TC from the torque tube flex plate, and try to re-seat? I guess at this point I am just trying to diagnose the pumping issue (or lack there of)
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Quick update on this. Everything is together, but we aren't getting anything pumping. There is no fluid coming through the lines, and the wheels aren't spinning the with the car idling up on the lift. The trans has a little over a gallon in it, a little over a qt came out of the TC when removed, and I put almost 1 qt back in it.
I am a manual guy, but know enough about auto's to know everything should be "there". When I mated the TC/torque tube to the trans I wiggled the TC through a couple of the normal "clicks" you have to get when mating up the TC to the trans shaft. Everything pulled together with norm effort on the case halfs, so I am fairly certain the TC and pump are engaged.
am I missing something?
is the normal procedure for mounting the TC is removing it from the torque tube first, then mating it to the torque flex plate after? I don't think this would have made a material difference as everything seemed to click in place fine.
from here what should be the next thing to check? try to unbolt the TC from the torque tube flex plate, and try to re-seat? I guess at this point I am just trying to diagnose the pumping issue (or lack there of)
I am a manual guy, but know enough about auto's to know everything should be "there". When I mated the TC/torque tube to the trans I wiggled the TC through a couple of the normal "clicks" you have to get when mating up the TC to the trans shaft. Everything pulled together with norm effort on the case halfs, so I am fairly certain the TC and pump are engaged.
am I missing something?
is the normal procedure for mounting the TC is removing it from the torque tube first, then mating it to the torque flex plate after? I don't think this would have made a material difference as everything seemed to click in place fine.
from here what should be the next thing to check? try to unbolt the TC from the torque tube flex plate, and try to re-seat? I guess at this point I am just trying to diagnose the pumping issue (or lack there of)
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St. Jude Donor '08
There are several special procedures for installing an automatic transmission in a vette. Without a service manual for all of the particulars it's tough to do.
I would check your fluid level first and make sure it up to the correct level.
You also needed to seat the converter properly on to the pump by pushing down and rotating the converter.
You should have heard the converter click into place.
If your fluid level is full and the converter was installed correctly, your pump might not be working.
I would check your fluid level first and make sure it up to the correct level.
You also needed to seat the converter properly on to the pump by pushing down and rotating the converter.
You should have heard the converter click into place.
If your fluid level is full and the converter was installed correctly, your pump might not be working.
Quick update on this. Everything is together, but we aren't getting anything pumping. There is no fluid coming through the lines, and the wheels aren't spinning the with the car idling up on the lift. The trans has a little over a gallon in it, a little over a qt came out of the TC when removed, and I put almost 1 qt back in it.
I am a manual guy, but know enough about auto's to know everything should be "there". When I mated the TC/torque tube to the trans I wiggled the TC through a couple of the normal "clicks" you have to get when mating up the TC to the trans shaft. Everything pulled together with norm effort on the case halfs, so I am fairly certain the TC and pump are engaged.
am I missing something?
is the normal procedure for mounting the TC is removing it from the torque tube first, then mating it to the torque flex plate after? I don't think this would have made a material difference as everything seemed to click in place fine.
from here what should be the next thing to check? try to unbolt the TC from the torque tube flex plate, and try to re-seat? I guess at this point I am just trying to diagnose the pumping issue (or lack there of)
I am a manual guy, but know enough about auto's to know everything should be "there". When I mated the TC/torque tube to the trans I wiggled the TC through a couple of the normal "clicks" you have to get when mating up the TC to the trans shaft. Everything pulled together with norm effort on the case halfs, so I am fairly certain the TC and pump are engaged.
am I missing something?
is the normal procedure for mounting the TC is removing it from the torque tube first, then mating it to the torque flex plate after? I don't think this would have made a material difference as everything seemed to click in place fine.
from here what should be the next thing to check? try to unbolt the TC from the torque tube flex plate, and try to re-seat? I guess at this point I am just trying to diagnose the pumping issue (or lack there of)
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Melting Slicks
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From: Dublin GA
[QUOTE=ajg1915;1576848355]
You also needed to seat the converter properly on to the pump by pushing down and rotating the converter.
QUOTE]
Thanks for your help guys
When we pulled the convertor out of the trans, it looks like the pump tangs that engage the convertor are "missing" so the TC was not turning the pump. Am sending it to TJ at RPM (big thanks for working with us)for a quick fix and then back in the car.
You also needed to seat the converter properly on to the pump by pushing down and rotating the converter.
QUOTE]
Thanks for your help guys
When we pulled the convertor out of the trans, it looks like the pump tangs that engage the convertor are "missing" so the TC was not turning the pump. Am sending it to TJ at RPM (big thanks for working with us)for a quick fix and then back in the car.
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From: West Norriton PA
St. Jude Donor '08
[QUOTE=Blow Torch;1576851819]
You also needed to seat the converter properly on to the pump by pushing down and rotating the converter.
QUOTE]
Thanks for your help guys
When we pulled the convertor out of the trans, it looks like the pump tangs that engage the convertor are "missing" so the TC was not turning the pump. Am sending it to TJ at RPM (big thanks for working with us)for a quick fix and then back in the car.
Glad you guys figured it out.
You also needed to seat the converter properly on to the pump by pushing down and rotating the converter.
QUOTE]
Thanks for your help guys
When we pulled the convertor out of the trans, it looks like the pump tangs that engage the convertor are "missing" so the TC was not turning the pump. Am sending it to TJ at RPM (big thanks for working with us)for a quick fix and then back in the car.