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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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Installing my new trans and have run into a problem. The part that bolts to the diff. is completely different. The old one has the round snout with an o-ring to keep fluid in. The new one does not (Looks completely different) What the heck??
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 08:04 AM
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You don't have the old one to compare I guess? There should be plenty of pictures around here to look at. It sounds like the wrong transmission to me.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 08:30 AM
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You don't have the old one to compare I guess? There should be plenty of pictures around here to look at. It sounds like the wrong transmission to me.
See "drivinghards" post
It does look like the wrong trans, but can't tell WHICH trans. Doesn't look like an F-body for what photos I can see
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 08:59 AM
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Here's a pic of my trans out of my 02 Z06.

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Mines for an A4, but yours actaully looks like a closer fit
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Read that 98 is different than 99 and up (early and late design)
Anyone able to confirm this?
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See "drivinghards" post
It does look like the wrong trans, but can't tell WHICH trans. Doesn't look like an F-body for what photos I can see
What are you saying here? Are the two transmissions in drivinhard's pic, exactly what you are seeing?
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I'd say you have recieved the wrong replacement tranny, if you are comparing the two trany's that are pictured side x side.
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It is the correct transmission. It is a later case design. The "puck" in the back of the old transmission needs removed and installed in the new transmission. The round disk on the back of your old transmission with the red sealer around it, needs to come out and be installed in the new transmission. It just pulls out of the back of the old transmission and pushes into the new one.
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What are you saying here? Are the two transmissions in drivinhard's pic, exactly what you are seeing?
Yes; Those are my transmissions, The car is at his shop
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Originally Posted by Jeremy@RPMTransmissions
It is the correct transmission. It is a later case design. The "puck" in the back of the old transmission needs removed and installed in the new transmission. The round disk on the back of your old transmission with the red sealer around it, needs to come out and be installed in the new transmission. It just pulls out of the back of the old transmission and pushes into the new one.
How is the "puck" removed?
Why does the "bolt pattern" look so diffrent than the earlier verson?
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Originally Posted by Jeremy@RPMTransmissions
It is the correct transmission. It is a later case design. The "puck" in the back of the old transmission needs removed and installed in the new transmission. The round disk on the back of your old transmission with the red sealer around it, needs to come out and be installed in the new transmission. It just pulls out of the back of the old transmission and pushes into the new one.
thanks for the info, I have done a ton of M6/M12 swaps where the "puck" is just part of the case.
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Originally Posted by drivinhard
thanks for the info, I have done a ton of M6/M12 swaps where the "puck" is just part of the case.
No problem. Hope you got it all figured out. The manual cars are very straight forward, but the autos had a few changes from 97-05. Sorry I wasn't around yesterday afternoon. I had some prior obligations. If you need anything else just let me know.
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Quick update on this. Everything is together, but we aren't getting anything pumping. There is no fluid coming through the lines, and the wheels aren't spinning the with the car idling up on the lift. The trans has a little over a gallon in it, a little over a qt came out of the TC when removed, and I put almost 1 qt back in it.

I am a manual guy, but know enough about auto's to know everything should be "there". When I mated the TC/torque tube to the trans I wiggled the TC through a couple of the normal "clicks" you have to get when mating up the TC to the trans shaft. Everything pulled together with norm effort on the case halfs, so I am fairly certain the TC and pump are engaged.

am I missing something?

is the normal procedure for mounting the TC is removing it from the torque tube first, then mating it to the torque flex plate after? I don't think this would have made a material difference as everything seemed to click in place fine.

from here what should be the next thing to check? try to unbolt the TC from the torque tube flex plate, and try to re-seat? I guess at this point I am just trying to diagnose the pumping issue (or lack there of)
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Originally Posted by drivinhard
Quick update on this. Everything is together, but we aren't getting anything pumping. There is no fluid coming through the lines, and the wheels aren't spinning the with the car idling up on the lift. The trans has a little over a gallon in it, a little over a qt came out of the TC when removed, and I put almost 1 qt back in it.

I am a manual guy, but know enough about auto's to know everything should be "there". When I mated the TC/torque tube to the trans I wiggled the TC through a couple of the normal "clicks" you have to get when mating up the TC to the trans shaft. Everything pulled together with norm effort on the case halfs, so I am fairly certain the TC and pump are engaged.

am I missing something?

is the normal procedure for mounting the TC is removing it from the torque tube first, then mating it to the torque flex plate after? I don't think this would have made a material difference as everything seemed to click in place fine.

from here what should be the next thing to check? try to unbolt the TC from the torque tube flex plate, and try to re-seat? I guess at this point I am just trying to diagnose the pumping issue (or lack there of)
I'm surprised you don't have a service manual, considering you are working on someone's car. If the tranny you installed was dry (overhauled or new), the total capacity is 10.8 quarts. The procedure for filling an A4 is very specific, so you might want to get a hold of a service manual.
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unbolt the TC from the torque tube flex plate, and try to re-seat?
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There are several special procedures for installing an automatic transmission in a vette. Without a service manual for all of the particulars it's tough to do.

I would check your fluid level first and make sure it up to the correct level.

You also needed to seat the converter properly on to the pump by pushing down and rotating the converter.

You should have heard the converter click into place.

If your fluid level is full and the converter was installed correctly, your pump might not be working.

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Quick update on this. Everything is together, but we aren't getting anything pumping. There is no fluid coming through the lines, and the wheels aren't spinning the with the car idling up on the lift. The trans has a little over a gallon in it, a little over a qt came out of the TC when removed, and I put almost 1 qt back in it.

I am a manual guy, but know enough about auto's to know everything should be "there". When I mated the TC/torque tube to the trans I wiggled the TC through a couple of the normal "clicks" you have to get when mating up the TC to the trans shaft. Everything pulled together with norm effort on the case halfs, so I am fairly certain the TC and pump are engaged.

am I missing something?

is the normal procedure for mounting the TC is removing it from the torque tube first, then mating it to the torque flex plate after? I don't think this would have made a material difference as everything seemed to click in place fine.

from here what should be the next thing to check? try to unbolt the TC from the torque tube flex plate, and try to re-seat? I guess at this point I am just trying to diagnose the pumping issue (or lack there of)
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You also needed to seat the converter properly on to the pump by pushing down and rotating the converter.

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Thanks for your help guys
When we pulled the convertor out of the trans, it looks like the pump tangs that engage the convertor are "missing" so the TC was not turning the pump. Am sending it to TJ at RPM (big thanks for working with us)for a quick fix and then back in the car.
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You also needed to seat the converter properly on to the pump by pushing down and rotating the converter.

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Thanks for your help guys
When we pulled the convertor out of the trans, it looks like the pump tangs that engage the convertor are "missing" so the TC was not turning the pump. Am sending it to TJ at RPM (big thanks for working with us)for a quick fix and then back in the car.
Glad you guys figured it out.
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