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Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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Installed some LEDs under the hood, and used the hood light connection for powering the lights. Seemed to work OK...but now they are turning on by themselves (these are normally controlled by a remote). I know the hood light was on a timer that turned it off after a while, but is that what is causing them to turn on?
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Installed some LEDs under the hood, and used the hood light connection for powering the lights. Seemed to work OK...but now they are turning on by themselves (these are normally controlled by a remote). I know the hood light was on a timer that turned it off after a while, but is that what is causing them to turn on?
You need to find another 12 volt source. The underhood light is a poor choice for what you are doing.
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You need to find another 12 volt source. The underhood light is a poor choice for what you are doing.
Why? I'm not using the hood lamp circuit for anything else (disconnected the hood lamp when I replaced the hood), it's rated for 10 amps and the lighting I'm using is consuming < 3 amps.

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So, you have some kind of electronic module controlling these LED's? What does it do when you apply power to it? It's got to always turn-on in an off state to be any use the way you have it connected.

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So, you have some kind of electronic module controlling these LED's? What does it do when you apply power to it? It's got to always turn-on in an off state to be any use the way you have it connected.

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Immediately powers on when connected to power. Only two wires connected (black - ground, red - hot) the yellow wire is not connected to anything (tried switched but that only resulted in a locked state that would not respond to the remote) so I'm not sure what the yellow connects to (did not come with instructions).

By remote, it will cycle thru all modes and turn on and off. As I said, once I shut it off, about 20 min later, it turns back on.

I once thought that the relay for this circuit cut power to the hood light after a certain time had elapsed. Once the circuit was open, it restored power to the circuit so the light would illuminate once the hood was reopened. Could that be what is happening here. When the light is turned off, the circuit resets after a while, then powers on the LEDs?

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Immediately powers on when connected to power.
Yes, this is your problem. It needs to power-up in an off state. You need to find a unswitched power source. You can tie to the stud beside the underhood fuse block. Just run an inline fuse.

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Why? I'm not using the hood lamp circuit for anything else (disconnected the hood lamp when I replaced the hood), it's rated for 10 amps and the lighting I'm using is consuming < 3 amps.
.....if you had the schematic for the circuit, you'd understand why.......but it sounds like you know what your doing.
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Yes, this is your problem. It needs to power-up in an off state. You need to find a unswitched power source. You can tie to the stud beside the underhood fuse block. Just run an inline fuse.

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Whether connected to switched or unswitched, when juice is applied the LEDs power-up in "on" state. The hood light circuit is hot always (unless someone knows differently)...so that can't be it.

I have a feeling the yellow wire may need to be switched or grounded....sounds strange, but I just thought those are the only configuations I haven't tried.
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.....if you had the schematic for the circuit, you'd understand why.......but it sounds like you know what your doing.
Do you have the schematic?
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Originally Posted by jhiiidoc
Do you have the schematic?
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...-work-now.html
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hmmmn...that didn't help...
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Originally Posted by jhiiidoc
hmmmn...that didn't help...
In what way? Are you saying you do not understand the schematic in that thread?
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Originally Posted by jhiiidoc
The hood light circuit is hot always (unless someone knows differently)...so that can't be it.
No, it's not powered all the time and yes that can be it. The power is cycled to your light controller and the LED's come on. Just to note, that is a really dumb default operation for the controller - lights on when power is applied.

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Going for the simple solution, although requires more wiring. Looking for another power source to tap...

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Originally Posted by jhiiidoc
Going for the simple solution, although requires more wiring. Looking for another power source to tap...

Not so fast. I use the under-hood light to power my under-hood led's. I mounted a manual rocker type switch right beside the under-hood light and removed the stock bulb. The only problem with this is every 20 mins or so the power shuts off. I simply hit my key fob unlock, lock button or open a door to reactivate it. I did not want to run a new wire to a constant hot source but that's me. These electrical systems scare me so I wanted to keep it simple.
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Originally Posted by craig04c5
The only problem with this is every 20 mins or so the power shuts off.
So there is some kind of timer on this circuit?
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
In what way? Are you saying you do not understand the schematic in that thread?
Not entirely...I'm no electrician. I was hoping it would show me the entire circuit thru the relay (I assume it is a relay) that has the timer in it..not that it would matter since if I have to go to the trouble to bypass it, I might as well run a new hot lead...
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Originally Posted by jhiiidoc
So there is some kind of timer on this circuit?
Yes, more like a sensor that turns off an electrical draw after a period of time.
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Yes, the under hood power feed gets turned on and off. Every time it comes back on your controller acting stupid defaults to the LED on state. Just find another power source that never switches.

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