C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

My headlights are going crazy!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 03:17 AM
  #1  
rohraa's Avatar
rohraa
Thread Starter
Cruising
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Default My headlights are going crazy!

Hello to all.

I have a 99 and having some issues that i can't seem to figure out. So here it is, I had to replace gears to brass gears... The headlights worked great for 1 day, then they started to have issue where one light would come up but other wouldn't... vise versa. Then either on wouldn't raise. It cycles between sometimes both work, then left only, right only, and then nothing. It has been quite frustrating, i checked grounds.

Anyone have any suggestions? Thoughts?

Any help appreciated. Thanks
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2011 | 09:55 PM
  #2  
Cratecruncher's Avatar
Cratecruncher
Instructor
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 233
Likes: 1
From: Austin Texas
Default

Sounds like a bad connection possibly in more than one location. Since you just did the brass gear thing I'd go back and inspect all the connectors you took apart for corrosion or burned contacts. If you live up north and drive in winter you may have crusty grounds. A multimeter is your friend.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 12:36 AM
  #3  
Carcass's Avatar
Carcass
Drifting
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,793
Likes: 7
From: Santa Maria Ca.
Default

Also check the 2 looms that plug into the headdlight controller module,could be loose or corroded.
If you clean up all the connections/grounds,and still have the same problem,it could be the module itself that's bunged up-you can take it apart and very carefully clean up the contacts with 600 wetordry sandpaper(there's a couple of ice cube relays in there,pop the covers off and you can get to the contacts)
The module is located behind the pass.headlight,mounted vertically on what would be the front wall of the passenger fenderwell-it's that 4x4 box with the bump in the middle and the looms plugged into the bottom edge.
I was having some non-opening problems with the lights,cleaned up the internals on the module,and they've been perfect every since.(over a year now)
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 01:26 AM
  #4  
rohraa's Avatar
rohraa
Thread Starter
Cruising
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Cratecruncher
Sounds like a bad connection possibly in more than one location. Since you just did the brass gear thing I'd go back and inspect all the connectors you took apart for corrosion or burned contacts. If you live up north and drive in winter you may have crusty grounds. A multimeter is your friend.
We inspected them and found nothing out of the ordinary.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 01:27 AM
  #5  
rohraa's Avatar
rohraa
Thread Starter
Cruising
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Carcass
Also check the 2 looms that plug into the headdlight controller module,could be loose or corroded.
If you clean up all the connections/grounds,and still have the same problem,it could be the module itself that's bunged up-you can take it apart and very carefully clean up the contacts with 600 wetordry sandpaper(there's a couple of ice cube relays in there,pop the covers off and you can get to the contacts)
The module is located behind the pass.headlight,mounted vertically on what would be the front wall of the passenger fenderwell-it's that 4x4 box with the bump in the middle and the looms plugged into the bottom edge.
I was having some non-opening problems with the lights,cleaned up the internals on the module,and they've been perfect every since.(over a year now)
Sounds promising, I will let you know how it turns out. Thanks
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 11:15 AM
  #6  
Cratecruncher's Avatar
Cratecruncher
Instructor
15 Year Member
Liked
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 233
Likes: 1
From: Austin Texas
Default

Here is another thing to consider. Each headlight motor is activated by the headlight control module as discussed. When the headlight travels up or down it eventually hits the stop causing a current spike in the circuit. The controller is programmed to cut power to the motor circuit as soon as it detects the current spike. It's a clever way for engineers to avoid the need for switches to cut power at the end of travel making the system cheaper and somewhat more reliable.

Problems can arise however when there is binding in the headlight linkage. The motor circuit hits the current threshold before it even begins to move telling the HCM "OK, I've completed my travel you can cut my power now." This may be your problem. Next time one of the headlights doesn't come up try rotating the manual **** to raise or lower it. If it's initially really difficult to turn, then becomes much easier you've identified the culprit.

Binding can be caused by a number of different things. Since you recently had the assemblies out for brass gears it may just be as simple as loosening the mounting bolts and retightening everything more evenly. Lubricating the linkage may help. Also check to see that the linkage is not "overcentering". That happens when the motor can rotate the linkage too far due to the stops being bent or pads missing causing a preload condition much like an overcenter style latch mechanism.

Let us know what you find.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 12:12 PM
  #7  
hdff's Avatar
hdff
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,554
Likes: 3
From: pasadena in the great state of TEXAS
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16-'17
Default

i'm having the same problems after a gear change. i was thinking the same thing about the binding just haven't had time to pull the light buckets again. i'm gonna have to put this on my short list cause mine are tight when i raise them manually. are there any other adjustments that can be made??
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 12:28 PM
  #8  
lionelhutz's Avatar
lionelhutz
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 11,150
Likes: 890
From: South Western Ontario
Default

To check if it is the motor binding open the hood and turn the manual ***** so they are turning easily and then turn-on the headlights. You have a binding problem if they work every time when you do this.

Peter
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 02:15 PM
  #9  
dgrant3830's Avatar
dgrant3830
Tech Contributor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 10,962
Likes: 29
From: Van Buren Arkansas
Wounded Warrior Escort '11
Default

I ran into something similar that I just solved on my '99 but it was only one headlamp, not both. My son had the car for a while and replaced the right headlamp gear with a brass gear which was fine. But, sometimes it would come up and other times it wouldn't. I found that if it wasn't coming up, if I manually turned the **** a hair...like half a turn, then turned the headlamps on manually, it would suddenly come up. I disassembled the motor and saw the stops were rising above the rubber bumper things in the gear when they should not have been. I realized that my son had re-assembled the motor wrong and the spacers/washers were in the wrong places. Once I fixed that and put it back together, no more problems at all.
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2011 | 12:18 AM
  #10  
rohraa's Avatar
rohraa
Thread Starter
Cruising
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Default

So I took the car to the dealer after spending more time than I have, and they think the motors are bad.. How likely are both motors to go bad at once?
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2011 | 12:27 AM
  #11  
seoulbrooks's Avatar
seoulbrooks
Instructor
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 240
Likes: 2
From: Yangpyeong Gyeonggi-Do
Default

rohraa

Sounds like a normal dealer response to me. Bet the motors spin like crazy when attached to 12V. I'd follow some of the great advice above before I paid a dealer to change both motors. My .02
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2011 | 12:43 AM
  #12  
rohraa's Avatar
rohraa
Thread Starter
Cruising
 
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by seoulbrooks
rohraa

Sounds like a normal dealer response to me. Bet the motors spin like crazy when attached to 12V. I'd follow some of the great advice above before I paid a dealer to change both motors. My .02
For sure. I told him I would be there 1st thing in the morning to pick it up. Motors from dealer are almost $700 alone. If I do need them, anyone know where to find them?
Reply
Old Apr 1, 2011 | 12:52 AM
  #13  
seoulbrooks's Avatar
seoulbrooks
Instructor
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 240
Likes: 2
From: Yangpyeong Gyeonggi-Do
Default

Contact Gene @GMPARTS......http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...artshouse.html
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To My headlights are going crazy!





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:41 PM.

story-0
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-2
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-5
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-8
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE