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Old May 3, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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Default LGM Pro Headers cracking at welds.

Recently had been noticing a tick under my '02 Z06. Thought at first it was vavletrain noise. But the more I tried to track it down I could hear it loudest under the car. Put the car up on a rack to change the oil last night at fired it up while in the air. I found a spot puffing air out near the bellhousing and upon looking closer there is a crack where the tab for the bellhousing bolt is welded to the driver side header tube. These headers only have 15,000 miles on them. Car only has 35K. I would think think a $1700 set of headers wouldn't have such problems. It's black with soot all around the weld where it's been leaking and it looks like the passenger side has been leaking and cracked too. Can these stainless header headers be repaired easily or are they junk now? Wondering if anyone else has had issues with the LG Pro headers and how they got them repaired. I thought these things should of outlasted the car.
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Old May 3, 2011 | 07:24 PM
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Take the bolts out; you don't need them. Have your headers repaired by a competent welder. Go on, and don't worry about them anymore. As long as they're not bolted to the bottom, they'll have room to flex, and not cause the metal fatigue.
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Old May 3, 2011 | 07:32 PM
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Take the bolts out; you don't need them. Have your headers repaired by a competent welder. Go on, and don't worry about them anymore. As long as they're not bolted to the bottom, they'll have room to flex, and not cause the metal fatigue.
So others have had to do this already? I would think since everything(heads, block, bellhousing and headers) is bolted together there shouldn't be stress on those mounting tabs. I guess movment of all the mid and rear portion of the exhaust would focus on those tabs rather than the header flange at the head.
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Old May 3, 2011 | 07:34 PM
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Don't worry about it --- just go to your local muffler shop or other weld shop that is competent with SS welding. It is about a 15 minute fix.
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Old May 3, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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My first set also cracked at that same location but, they never leaked. I had them welded a couple times only to crack again a while later. I called LG and talked to them about the problem and they agreed to send me a new replacement set as long as I mailed the defective ones back. During install of the replacement set; we opened up the mounting hole a bit so there wasn't any pressure on that point after installation and I haven't had a problem since.
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With what zeevette said. No biggig.
Just remove the two tabs that are bolted to the bell & have the small
holes welded up on the tubes.
Good luck.
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Don't worry about it --- just go to your local muffler shop or other weld shop that is competent with SS welding. It is about a 15 minute fix.
So I guess I need to cut the mounting tabs completly off then weld the tubes?
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Originally Posted by BryanC
So I guess I need to cut the mounting tabs completly off then weld the tubes?
You've got the right plan.
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Old May 4, 2011 | 02:28 AM
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So I guess I need to cut the mounting tabs completly off then weld the tubes?
You don't need to cut off the tabs, unless they're in the way of repairing the hole. Should be a real easy fix.
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I have this same issue. It happens on all headers that have tabs at that location. I'm going to cut the tabs off and then weld the holes.
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Old May 4, 2011 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by zeevette
You don't need to cut off the tabs, unless they're in the way of repairing the hole. Should be a real easy fix.
Not sure if it's cracked on the top side of the tab also. That would be hard to fix. I thought it will rattle if the tabs are left on but not bolted down.
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Originally Posted by BryanC
Not sure if it's cracked on the top side of the tab also. That would be hard to fix. I thought it will rattle if the tabs are left on but not bolted down.
When you have the hole/holes welded, have the welder burn the tabs off first.
LG came out with a statement early on , when this tab breakage first became an issue, to just unbolt the tabs from the bell housing,
hopefully before a weld breaking.
I've had my LG Pro's on for 8 years , with the tabs still bolted to the bell. My car is not a daily driver & usually only put around 2k miles a year on the car.
Good luck w/your fix.
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Not sure if it's cracked on the top side of the tab also. That would be hard to fix. I thought it will rattle if the tabs are left on but not bolted down.
Ended up doing a cam swap and took the headers completly out of the car and had them welded up all the way around the tabs. No way they could have fixed as well if still in the car.
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FWIW the new pros dont even have tabs on them so there is no real need for them.
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FWIW the new pros dont even have tabs on them so there is no real need for them.
Yep, I mounted them up without the tabs and removed the bracket from the bellhousing so they wouldn't rattle against it. No more ticking headers.
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My LG Pro LongTubes cracked twice and both times were welded with what I would deem excessive molten metal to patch it up and reinforce it. Its funny I came across this thread today because I think the crack is back. Valvetrain noise doesn't come from beneath the car..... I have no doubt that Lou will stand behind his product. Problem is, with my past experiences, I don't trust anyone but Team LG to touch my car and LG Motorsports is 13 hours away.
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I can say this. We installed a new set of Lg's yesterday at the shop and the tabs are gone. They done pout them on there anymore.
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