Time to live up to the name!
Thread Starter
Safety Car
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,888
Likes: 2
From: Frederick, Maryland
I should have said that the motor wouldnt be fully dressed. basically a forged shortblock plus UPP's twin turbo kit for 5k.
LS2 block (Bored .30 over0 - $900
TSP LS2 402 forged stroker kit-$1900
UPP's TT kit- $5k
~$7800
Sorry for the ignorance though guys, kinda why I started this thread lol
Last edited by TriplBlk; May 24, 2011 at 08:01 PM.
Pro
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 545
Likes: 4
From: Calgary Alberta
Before you spend thousands consider spending $28 and read Maximum Boost. Once you have read it and understand it you will realize that a well thought out system would be better laid out then the one you are referring too.
Google TTI turbo systems for a look at a nice system.
For your goal and the budget you mention twin turbo or supercharger is the way to go.
Raising the redline might well lead to other needs like different gear ratios and more expense.
Google TTI turbo systems for a look at a nice system.
For your goal and the budget you mention twin turbo or supercharger is the way to go.
Raising the redline might well lead to other needs like different gear ratios and more expense.
Race Director
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 11,150
Likes: 890
From: South Western Ontario
Add
cam - $500
pushrods - $300
roller lifters - $750
roller rockers - $800
prepped heads - $2500
oil pump - $150
gaskets - $200
bearings - $200
etc, etc
The stroker kit and a bored block are not even close to most of your expenses to build the engine you're talking about. Especially if you expect to get to 8k rpm on that kind of budget.
When I said you couldn't build an 8k rpm engine for $6800 I meant you couldn't build the engine only which doesn't include the turbo kit.
Peter
cam - $500
pushrods - $300
roller lifters - $750
roller rockers - $800
prepped heads - $2500
oil pump - $150
gaskets - $200
bearings - $200
etc, etc
The stroker kit and a bored block are not even close to most of your expenses to build the engine you're talking about. Especially if you expect to get to 8k rpm on that kind of budget.
When I said you couldn't build an 8k rpm engine for $6800 I meant you couldn't build the engine only which doesn't include the turbo kit.
Peter
Thread Starter
Safety Car
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,888
Likes: 2
From: Frederick, Maryland
Before you spend thousands consider spending $28 and read Maximum Boost. Once you have read it and understand it you will realize that a well thought out system would be better laid out then the one you are referring too.
Google TTI turbo systems for a look at a nice system.
For your goal and the budget you mention twin turbo or supercharger is the way to go.
Raising the redline might well lead to other needs like different gear ratios and more expense.
Google TTI turbo systems for a look at a nice system.
For your goal and the budget you mention twin turbo or supercharger is the way to go.
Raising the redline might well lead to other needs like different gear ratios and more expense.
Add
cam - $500
pushrods - $300
roller lifters - $750
roller rockers - $800
prepped heads - $2500
oil pump - $150
gaskets - $200
bearings - $200
etc, etc
The stroker kit and a bored block are not even close to most of your expenses to build the engine you're talking about. Especially if you expect to get to 8k rpm on that kind of budget.
When I said you couldn't build an 8k rpm engine for $6800 I meant you couldn't build the engine only which doesn't include the turbo kit.
Peter
cam - $500
pushrods - $300
roller lifters - $750
roller rockers - $800
prepped heads - $2500
oil pump - $150
gaskets - $200
bearings - $200
etc, etc
The stroker kit and a bored block are not even close to most of your expenses to build the engine you're talking about. Especially if you expect to get to 8k rpm on that kind of budget.
When I said you couldn't build an 8k rpm engine for $6800 I meant you couldn't build the engine only which doesn't include the turbo kit.
Peter
. I know Iwould have to put more into the engine but sadly this wouldnt be one of those builds you see when the guys take a couple weeks and then have a completely assembled engine. This was kinda going to be a slow process build, by piecing it all together throughout the year and then later putting it all in. You guys have convinced me that an 8k rev limit isnt possible and safe so Ill turn that idea down.
Im at the point now where I think Ill just buy the block, and the UPP kit. Block is $900(Seems like such a good price) and Id like to get the UPP kit before it magically goes up.
this way Im Only at $5900 and maybe some other things will fall into place.
Last edited by TriplBlk; May 25, 2011 at 09:39 AM.
Pro
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 545
Likes: 4
From: Calgary Alberta
Simple installation? It installs under the front fenders from what I can see. How is that simple?
Turbo's are driven but the hot expanding exhaust gases. If you mount the turbo several feet away from where the gas exits the engine the temperature drops significantly thereby defeating their purpose.
If simplicity is your gig, go supercharger. Inexpensive, easy to install and meets or exceeds your power goals. Don't cheap out and skip the intercooler.
Corky's book is available directly from Bell Engineering or more conveniently through the big online book retailers who I'm likely not allowed to mention here for fear of an illegal vendor promotion.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,993
Likes: 25
When it comes to money you should always be picky.
Simple installation? It installs under the front fenders from what I can see. How is that simple?
Turbo's are driven but the hot expanding exhaust gases. If you mount the turbo several feet away from where the gas exits the engine the temperature drops significantly thereby defeating their purpose.
If simplicity is your gig, go supercharger. Inexpensive, easy to install and meets or exceeds your power goals. Don't cheap out and skip the intercooler.
Corky's book is available directly from Bell Engineering or more conveniently through the big online book retailers who I'm likely not allowed to mention here for fear of an illegal vendor promotion.
Simple installation? It installs under the front fenders from what I can see. How is that simple?
Turbo's are driven but the hot expanding exhaust gases. If you mount the turbo several feet away from where the gas exits the engine the temperature drops significantly thereby defeating their purpose.
If simplicity is your gig, go supercharger. Inexpensive, easy to install and meets or exceeds your power goals. Don't cheap out and skip the intercooler.
Corky's book is available directly from Bell Engineering or more conveniently through the big online book retailers who I'm likely not allowed to mention here for fear of an illegal vendor promotion.
Guess you never saw the rear mounted turbos from STS.
Thread Starter
Safety Car
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,888
Likes: 2
From: Frederick, Maryland
When it comes to money you should always be picky.
Simple installation? It installs under the front fenders from what I can see. How is that simple?
Turbo's are driven but the hot expanding exhaust gases. If you mount the turbo several feet away from where the gas exits the engine the temperature drops significantly thereby defeating their purpose.
If simplicity is your gig, go supercharger. Inexpensive, easy to install and meets or exceeds your power goals. Don't cheap out and skip the intercooler.
Corky's book is available directly from Bell Engineering or more conveniently through the big online book retailers who I'm likely not allowed to mention here for fear of an illegal vendor promotion.
Simple installation? It installs under the front fenders from what I can see. How is that simple?
Turbo's are driven but the hot expanding exhaust gases. If you mount the turbo several feet away from where the gas exits the engine the temperature drops significantly thereby defeating their purpose.
If simplicity is your gig, go supercharger. Inexpensive, easy to install and meets or exceeds your power goals. Don't cheap out and skip the intercooler.
Corky's book is available directly from Bell Engineering or more conveniently through the big online book retailers who I'm likely not allowed to mention here for fear of an illegal vendor promotion.
Ill search for the book thanks
And yes simplicity in the design itself. But ease of install doesnt bother me.A TT kit for 5k is just too good to be true haha. 582rwhp at 8 psi? A supercharger does sound nice if I can get it for a nice price. Id do centrifrugal only though.
Corvette Stories
The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!
Brett Foote
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!
Michael S. Palmer
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know
Joe Kucinski
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2
Michael S. Palmer
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor
Joe Kucinski
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!
Joe Kucinski
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!
Joe Kucinski
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!
Joe Kucinski
Le Mans Master
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,993
Likes: 25
Ill search for the book thanks
And yes simplicity in the design itself. But ease of install doesnt bother me.A TT kit for 5k is just too good to be true haha. 582rwhp at 8 psi? A supercharger does sound nice if I can get it for a nice price. Id do centrifrugal only though.
And yes simplicity in the design itself. But ease of install doesnt bother me.A TT kit for 5k is just too good to be true haha. 582rwhp at 8 psi? A supercharger does sound nice if I can get it for a nice price. Id do centrifrugal only though.
Thread Starter
Safety Car
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,888
Likes: 2
From: Frederick, Maryland
Lol
You always crack me up
I have ADHD and Im extremely impulsive. BUT I cant fight the fact of what you all tell me about revving to 8k. I mean hearing it from many people that it cant be done with this budget, well, then Im going to agree and accept it haha. Right?
$6,700 is me wanting spending almost nothing? Doug, I need your kinda paychecks then dude 
.
Do you mean the fact I wanna spend only 5k for a TT kit cause its so cheap? Well yea its affordable and IMO a nice setup and will be a good benchmark to start for power.
You always crack me upI have ADHD and Im extremely impulsive. BUT I cant fight the fact of what you all tell me about revving to 8k. I mean hearing it from many people that it cant be done with this budget, well, then Im going to agree and accept it haha. Right?
$6,700 is me wanting spending almost nothing?
Doug, I need your kinda paychecks then dude .Do you mean the fact I wanna spend only 5k for a TT kit cause its so cheap? Well yea its affordable and IMO a nice setup and will be a good benchmark to start for power.
Pro
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 545
Likes: 4
From: Calgary Alberta
Why only centrifugal?
http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc.../TVS/index.htm
76% efficiency!
Too bad Edlebrock doesn't make the Vette kit for C5's. Now you could put in a C6 engine with their kit on it.
Hmm, where did I leave my cheque book.........
http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc.../TVS/index.htm
76% efficiency!
Too bad Edlebrock doesn't make the Vette kit for C5's. Now you could put in a C6 engine with their kit on it.
Hmm, where did I leave my cheque book.........
Thread Starter
Safety Car
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,888
Likes: 2
From: Frederick, Maryland
Why only centrifugal?
http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc.../TVS/index.htm
76% efficiency!
Too bad Edlebrock doesn't make the Vette kit for C5's. Now you could put in a C6 engine with their kit on it.
Hmm, where did I leave my cheque book.........
http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/Produc.../TVS/index.htm
76% efficiency!
Too bad Edlebrock doesn't make the Vette kit for C5's. Now you could put in a C6 engine with their kit on it.
Hmm, where did I leave my cheque book.........
Im going to boost the Harrop.
Le Mans Master
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,993
Likes: 25
LolYou always crack me up
I have ADHD and Im extremely impulsive. BUT I cant fight the fact of what you all tell me about revving to 8k. I mean hearing it from many people that it cant be done with this budget, well, then Im going to agree and accept it haha. Right?
$6,700 is me wanting spending almost nothing? Doug, I need your kinda paychecks then dude .
Do you mean the fact I wanna spend only 5k for a TT kit cause its so cheap? Well yea its affordable and IMO a nice setup and will be a good benchmark to start for power.
You always crack me upI have ADHD and Im extremely impulsive. BUT I cant fight the fact of what you all tell me about revving to 8k. I mean hearing it from many people that it cant be done with this budget, well, then Im going to agree and accept it haha. Right?
$6,700 is me wanting spending almost nothing?
Doug, I need your kinda paychecks then dude .Do you mean the fact I wanna spend only 5k for a TT kit cause its so cheap? Well yea its affordable and IMO a nice setup and will be a good benchmark to start for power.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,704
Likes: 4
From: Lone Star State
Add
cam - $500
pushrods - $300
roller lifters - $750
roller rockers - $800
prepped heads - $2500
oil pump - $150
gaskets - $200
bearings - $200
etc, etc
The stroker kit and a bored block are not even close to most of your expenses to build the engine you're talking about. Especially if you expect to get to 8k rpm on that kind of budget.
When I said you couldn't build an 8k rpm engine for $6800 I meant you couldn't build the engine only which doesn't include the turbo kit.
Peter
cam - $500
pushrods - $300
roller lifters - $750
roller rockers - $800
prepped heads - $2500
oil pump - $150
gaskets - $200
bearings - $200
etc, etc
The stroker kit and a bored block are not even close to most of your expenses to build the engine you're talking about. Especially if you expect to get to 8k rpm on that kind of budget.
When I said you couldn't build an 8k rpm engine for $6800 I meant you couldn't build the engine only which doesn't include the turbo kit.
Peter
Race Director
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,060
Likes: 291
From: Pasco WA
What about the budget for the drivetrain? You're gonna need at least a DD clutch, and new DS bushings. Maybe beef up the output shafts, and don't forget a trans brace, etc. to support all that power. Transmission won't take it, I could go on.....
Race Director
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 11,150
Likes: 890
From: South Western Ontario
Peter
Last edited by lionelhutz; May 25, 2011 at 09:10 PM.
Race Director
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 16,667
Likes: 1,209
From: Raleigh, NC
St. Jude Donor '15
My head is going to explode at what I'm reading in this thread. A 8k RPM motor for how much? Then you're told to ignore a well priced turbo kit that has put down over 800hp on c6 builds because of some book some guy read? I don't care if it's the most efficient system ever made and I doubt he does either. The guy's on a budget and it's a good option to consider.
Or I'd look into the SC option.. I know you want to use that crazy *** intake but it's going to be more trouble than it's worth.
Or I'd look into the SC option.. I know you want to use that crazy *** intake but it's going to be more trouble than it's worth.