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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 09:27 AM
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My 2000 vert with 14,000 miles doesn't always start after it has been turned off. I don't even get a clicking noise. I have to put it in neutral, engage and disengage the clutch and take my foot off the brake and then after a few more tries it will kick over.

I have run at least 3 bottles of Techtron thru it over the last 1500 miles but that did not make a difference.

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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 09:29 AM
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You think Techron would cure a car not even CLICKING-YIKES. You have a bad connection at the battery or starter most likely.
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bontrager
I have run at least 3 bottles of Techtron thru it over the last 1500 miles but that did not make a difference.
....ahhhh..yeah...about that.........I don't see a connection between the fuel, and the engine cranking

Post your codes:

http://www.c5forum.com/ayc/dtcdic.php
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Try this, when it doesn't start disconnect your negative post for about 10 seconds and reconnect, but always post your codes and include the H, C, or HC
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 11:08 AM
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Loose terminal connection at the battery, bad battery, failing ignition switch, failing starter solenoid... There are a few things that could cause this condition. When mine was doing that it ended up being a bad starter solenoid; but we're just guessing at this point.

Post your codes per the instructions in the link lucky posted
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 12:09 PM
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If you have to put your foot on the clutch a few times then I would look at the clutch switch. The switch interrupts the starter wire when not engaged. This would explain 'not even a click' then starting normally after moving the clutch pedal a few times.
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If you have to put your foot on the clutch a few times then I would look at the clutch switch. The switch interrupts the starter wire when not engaged. This would explain 'not even a click' then starting normally after moving the clutch pedal a few times.
Possible.......but not probable.
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Originally Posted by bontrager
My 2000 vert with 14,000 miles doesn't always start after it has been turned off. I don't even get a clicking noise. I have to put it in neutral, engage and disengage the clutch and take my foot off the brake and then after a few more tries it will kick over.


Please advise; thank you
First of all thank you for all the comments. I failed to mention the on the "first" start there seems to be a hesitation before the engine kicks over.

Would that help simplify all of the listed diagnosis causes?
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 08:42 AM
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On that first attempt to start where it "hestitates" as you state, does the starter motor engage and attempt to turn over the engine? If not, do you hear the loud click from the starter solenoid? If neither, is the security light continuing to flash? As lucky asked for, codes would be helpful. I'll venture a guess that your ignition switch is on its way out but before getting there this other information needs to be answered as there are other possible causes.
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Originally Posted by bontrager
First of all thank you for all the comments. I failed to mention the on the "first" start there seems to be a hesitation before the engine kicks over.

Would that help simplify all of the listed diagnosis causes?
The BCM has a starter interrupt as part of the anti theft which might be failing, many possibilities until you post your codes its going to be hard to narrow down.
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Originally Posted by dgrant3830
On that first attempt to start where it "hestitates" as you state, does the starter motor engage and attempt to turn over the engine? If not, do you hear the loud click from the starter solenoid? If neither, is the security light continuing to flash? As lucky asked for, codes would be helpful. I'll venture a guess that your ignition switch is on its way out but before getting there this other information needs to be answered as there are other possible causes.
Yes the starter motor engages and then turns over.
I will post codes.
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