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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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Is there such a thing as a "Mild" supercharger. I have a stock LS1 and want a little more grunt but dont want to break anything especially my wallet. Just a reasonable amount of boost that's not going to require
rebuilding the rest of the drivetrain.

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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Is there such a thing as a "Mild" supercharger. I have a stock LS1 and want a little more grunt but dont want to break anything especially my wallet. Just a reasonable amount of boost that's not going to require
rebuilding the rest of the drivetrain.

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Mild in terms of cost or power? For the latter it just depends on the amount of boost you run and how aggressive your tuner is. You can keep your stock bottom end but you'll probably want to at least upgrade the diff with any FI application. You're going to need a new clutch too if your car is stick.

Radioflyer is selling his vortech SI trim blower right now in the parts for sale section. It is very mild as far as superchargers go and I believe he was running it on a stock drivetrain and motor. Remember to budget for a dyno tune after the install; it is NOT optional.

While you're heading down this road remember the rule of thumb is: Cheap/Fast/Reliable... pick two.

Also... what mods do you already have done. There are quite a few things you can do to add power that don't involve a blower.
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Originally Posted by NorthEnco
Is there such a thing as a "Mild" supercharger. I have a stock LS1 and want a little more grunt but dont want to break anything especially my wallet. Just a reasonable amount of boost that's not going to require
rebuilding the rest of the drivetrain.

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I have never heard of a mild SC. Most guys are looking for
all the power they can find. That being said you can have
less hp with a mild tune and a few other changes. It is
not hard to do but why spend the money on a SC if you
don't want much power?? A small cam and a little head
work and you can have small hp. You would spend less
money and have your results. Good luck.
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Well ok, thanks for the info. Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree, with the supercharger.
When you say a "mild tune", just what do you mean. The car is an automatic, bone stock except for a BBN air filter setup that was put be the previous owner. The car is pretty quick but you know the way it is
I'm just looking for a few extra ponies without making things unreliable.
What exactly will a "tune" get me ?

Bob
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Old Sep 20, 2011 | 04:53 PM
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If that's what you want, a rear axle gear change might be a better option than the supercharger or opening up the motor for heads/cam, etc...
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Originally Posted by NorthEnco
Well ok, thanks for the info. Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree, with the supercharger.
When you say a "mild tune", just what do you mean. The car is an automatic, bone stock except for a BBN air filter setup that was put be the previous owner. The car is pretty quick but you know the way it is
I'm just looking for a few extra ponies without making things unreliable.
What exactly will a "tune" get me ?

Bob
A base supercharger kit with a safe amount of boost and a tune will get you at least 125rwhp. If you are not going to race the car, then you are fine with stock everything.

There is the Magnuson Kit, which is a roots type charger but I don't know if people still use it. You needed to change the hood though.

There are kits that A&A and ECS put out which are centrifugal superchargers. They fit under the existing hood.
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Originally Posted by NorthEnco
The car is an automatic, bone stock except for a BBN air filter setup that was put be the previous owner. The car is pretty quick but you know the way it is
I'm just looking for a few extra ponies without making things unreliable.
What exactly will a "tune" get me ?

Bob
If you're looking for a little more grunt I would start with Long Tube headers, a 3.42 rear end with a stall converter and a dyno tune. The gears will not net you any real horsepower but it'll feel like you just freed up 100 ponies... The headers and the tune should be good for 30+ horsepower easily.
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Is there such a thing as a "Mild" supercharger.
Yep, also call N//A
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A&A kit with a 4" or 4.2" blower pulley....5-6psi of boost. That's as mild as you can get
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I have a "mild" supercharger. As someone else said, it depends on how much boost you want. I am running 7 psi boost, which generates 160 RWHP (general rule is 20-25 HP per lb of boost). Now I could easily increase my boost but for me +160 RWHP is adequate. I can easily spin my tires in 1st, 2nd and going into 3rd without popping the clutch (rolling into each gear). You have to ask the question how much HP is USABLE on street tires).


If you go big on boost things break. I am running running my original stock clutch and so far it is holding up fine.
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Originally Posted by cdkcorvette7
If you're looking for a little more grunt I would start with Long Tube headers, a 3.42 rear end with a stall converter and a dyno tune. The gears will not net you any real horsepower but it'll feel like you just freed up 100 ponies... The headers and the tune should be good for 30+ horsepower easily.
An excellent suggestion and a great way to start spending all your extra cash.
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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To get MILD, you change the pullies-that changes the amount of BOOST.
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Originally Posted by NorthEnco
Is there such a thing as a "Mild" supercharger. I have a stock LS1 and want a little more grunt but dont want to break anything especially my wallet. Just a reasonable amount of boost that's not going to require
rebuilding the rest of the drivetrain.

Thanks
Bob
You can install our system with a larger pulley to get less boost.

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It's your right foot that controls how mild you make it. Get the standard A&A Si installed and never look back. Once you get a little boost, you will want more. Good luck, Rod
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Originally Posted by cdkcorvette7
If you're looking for a little more grunt I would start with Long Tube headers, a 3.42 rear end with a stall converter and a dyno tune. The gears will not net you any real horsepower but it'll feel like you just freed up 100 ponies... The headers and the tune should be good for 30+ horsepower easily.
I'm not sure how much that package would cost, especially if you're paying someone to install it, but I would think for not much more he could have a blower installed and have some REAL horsepower, not just the "illusion" of more.

Having said that, an automatic with stock stall/gears isn't going to feel much more powerfull off the line with a centrifugal blower, but once you're moving the difference will be huge. The tuner can "wake-up" the auto tranny while tuning as well, making it more responsive and much less sluggish.

IMO, headers netting a +30hp gain is not something you can feel. I put LG Pros on my Z and other than the sound the car felt the same. It picked up 2-3 MPH at the strip, not something the butt dyno can register.

A bone stock car with a blower is a pretty good value equation. There's no limit to the amount of money you can spend on small "mods" that may/may not affect how fast the car is. There's NO QUESTION that a blower will make the car MUCH faster.
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Here you go, an A&A kit installed and tuned for under $6200:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...0-at-tick.html
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Good feedback on gear ratios and stall speeds if you decide to go that route:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-t...-in-an-a4.html
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Originally Posted by Blue Angel
I'm not sure how much that package would cost, especially if you're paying someone to install it, but I would think for not much more he could have a blower installed and have some REAL horsepower, not just the "illusion" of more.

Having said that, an automatic with stock stall/gears isn't going to feel much more powerfull off the line with a centrifugal blower, but once you're moving the difference will be huge. The tuner can "wake-up" the auto tranny while tuning as well, making it more responsive and much less sluggish.

IMO, headers netting a +30hp gain is not something you can feel. I put LG Pros on my Z and other than the sound the car felt the same. It picked up 2-3 MPH at the strip, not something the butt dyno can register.

A bone stock car with a blower is a pretty good value equation. There's no limit to the amount of money you can spend on small "mods" that may/may not affect how fast the car is. There's NO QUESTION that a blower will make the car MUCH faster.
I absolutely agree with you that a blower is a better value but the OP said he doen't want to do anything that requires bolstering the drivetrain. I'm one that believes definitely the stock diff and probably tranny is on borrowed time once you install FI.

So... gears, stall, headers and a tune would net a few more ponies and the gears would "feel" like a 75 hp increase. The combination of the lower gearing and the tune would make for lightning fast throttle response and huge off-the-line grunt. I got the impression that the OP doesn't track his car and therefore doesn't care about actual performance at the track. JMHO
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Originally Posted by Steve@AandACorvette
You can install our system with a larger pulley to get less boost.

Steve:
How much boost will a 4.25 pulley make on a stock LS2 engine...
I want to low the boost that I'm getting from the 3.8 pully.

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