Telescoping Steering Wheel Problem
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Heel & Toe
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Telescoping Steering Wheel Problem
Hello all,
I recently pulled my driver seat to fix the rocking seat (thank you theradioflyer, washers worked great). After installation my telescoping steering wheel moved when I adjusted my seat back and forth. Once the steering wheel column was all the way in, it was almost stuck. The column never moved after that by the seat switch or the column switch.
I searched the forum and tried the turn ignition key on w/o engine and press the directional switch in eitght times but all that happens now is a click. You can hear a click everytime the switch is hit. I inspected the blue harness from under the seat but everything looks good. Has anyone had this happen? Was there any solution? Thanks in advance,
Diggs
I recently pulled my driver seat to fix the rocking seat (thank you theradioflyer, washers worked great). After installation my telescoping steering wheel moved when I adjusted my seat back and forth. Once the steering wheel column was all the way in, it was almost stuck. The column never moved after that by the seat switch or the column switch.
I searched the forum and tried the turn ignition key on w/o engine and press the directional switch in eitght times but all that happens now is a click. You can hear a click everytime the switch is hit. I inspected the blue harness from under the seat but everything looks good. Has anyone had this happen? Was there any solution? Thanks in advance,
Diggs
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Wounded Warrior Escort '11
Yes. That blue connector to the seat is the one where the telescoping steering is fed from along with position feedback and so on. Those pins/sockets will get lose over time and cause issues such as this.
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Thank you, I will do an indepth look at the connector this weekend.
I also did a diagnostics check and came up with the following codes:
60-IPC B0516H
B0521H
U1160H
A0-LDCM B2206H
B2284H
U1255H
U1064H
U1064H
U1016H
U1096H
A6-SCM B2860H
BO-RFA C2100H
C2105H
U1000H
U1255H
U1064H
U1016H
I know that B2860H is the Telescoping Column Position Sensor Failure code. Does this mean the sensor went bad or could it still be the connector? Thanks.
Diggs
I also did a diagnostics check and came up with the following codes:
60-IPC B0516H
B0521H
U1160H
A0-LDCM B2206H
B2284H
U1255H
U1064H
U1064H
U1016H
U1096H
A6-SCM B2860H
BO-RFA C2100H
C2105H
U1000H
U1255H
U1064H
U1016H
I know that B2860H is the Telescoping Column Position Sensor Failure code. Does this mean the sensor went bad or could it still be the connector? Thanks.
Diggs
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Wounded Warrior Escort '11
The connector. I've never seen the position feedback fail other than it's connection. Seriously, look at the blue 7-pin connector at the seat to car interface for contaminated or lose pins/sockets.
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I finally had the chance to take the seat out and check the connector and wires. The blue connector had all the wires and connectors in perfect shape. Should I check to make sure the correct voltage is coming out of the orange connector? Any other ideas of what it could be? Thanks!
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Update: Telescoping steering wheel
So I went back at it today and removed the seat. I spliced the wires and retested to see if it was a connection problem. Even with the wires directly connected the telescoping steering wheel didn't move. I also did a continuity under the seat to make sure the connections were good and they were. It isn't the plug. I still hear a click from either under the seat or under the column when I hit the switch forward or back. Any ideas? This is driving me crazy!!!
Thanks in advance!
Diggs
Thanks in advance!
Diggs
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Wounded Warrior Escort '11
Well, it could be the motor itself for the steering column. The only way I can think of to verify it, would be to access the column's motor connector and manually power it, then reverse power it to see if the column moves.
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Thank you very much dgrant3830 for all of your help.
Do you have any idea of the steps to get to the motor/motor connector/sensor?
Once I get there, how do I test the motor manually?
Thanks again for all of your help.
Diggs
Do you have any idea of the steps to get to the motor/motor connector/sensor?
Once I get there, how do I test the motor manually?
Thanks again for all of your help.
Diggs
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Wounded Warrior Escort '11
You'll need to remove the knee bolster of course then locate the steering column connector from the motor. Its got two large pins on it. In order to manually power it, you'll need 12volts from the battery and approppriate sockets/pins to use on the connector. Now a word of caution here, if you aren't careful with a power feed from the battery, then you risk causing a huge spark and melting wires and even possibly injurying yourself. I did this using a 2amp battery charger and some test leads rather than the car's internal battery. If it moves both directions, then there's more troubleshooting to be done. Both Lucky 131969 and Bill Curlee have schematics for the system whereas I don't but if it doesn't move, you've found the problem. Too date, I've only encountered one person here on the forum who has had a failed motor for the column.
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I went under the steering column and it isn't the motor.
1) Could it be anything under the seat besides the connector?
I may go under the seat this weekend and take apart all wires in connector and directly connect. I still here a clicking under the seat whenever the switch is used.
2) Any other ideas? Maybe something I did when I had the seat out of the car that could have messed up the telescoping control?
Thanks,
Diggs
1) Could it be anything under the seat besides the connector?
I may go under the seat this weekend and take apart all wires in connector and directly connect. I still here a clicking under the seat whenever the switch is used.
2) Any other ideas? Maybe something I did when I had the seat out of the car that could have messed up the telescoping control?
Thanks,
Diggs
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You might try re-programming the seat position to 1 or 2. I know this is far fetched but I have found that my memory seat has a mind of its own some days. It might be programmed for that setting (all the way in). Do you have the feature where the seat goes back to neutral so you can get out of the car when the ignition key is pulled? There is a setting on the DIC to disable that. Good Luck
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Paul Wood,
I tried reprogramming seat memory 1 but nothing happened as far as steering wheel column. I will try to re-program memory 2 and see if anything happens. I am not sure if I have that feature enabled. How could I check? I am pretty sure that is turned off but should I turn it on? Thanks.
dgrant3820,
I checked two fuses under the passenger foot well and they looked fine. Any other fuses I should try? Thanks,
Diggs
I tried reprogramming seat memory 1 but nothing happened as far as steering wheel column. I will try to re-program memory 2 and see if anything happens. I am not sure if I have that feature enabled. How could I check? I am pretty sure that is turned off but should I turn it on? Thanks.
dgrant3820,
I checked two fuses under the passenger foot well and they looked fine. Any other fuses I should try? Thanks,
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I believe there is a setting on the DIC that enables or disables this feature. Scroll through the options list and see if it is there. I do not have tele feature on my car so I am not sure how the switches work. The good news is that it can be resolved through diagnostics and trouble shooting. Lucky is a whiz on electrical issues and so is Bill Curlee. You might see if you can get them to help you with the wiring. Good Luck.
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Wounded Warrior Escort '11
Paul Wood,
I tried reprogramming seat memory 1 but nothing happened as far as steering wheel column. I will try to re-program memory 2 and see if anything happens. I am not sure if I have that feature enabled. How could I check? I am pretty sure that is turned off but should I turn it on? Thanks.
dgrant3820,
I checked two fuses under the passenger foot well and they looked fine. Any other fuses I should try? Thanks,
Diggs
I tried reprogramming seat memory 1 but nothing happened as far as steering wheel column. I will try to re-program memory 2 and see if anything happens. I am not sure if I have that feature enabled. How could I check? I am pretty sure that is turned off but should I turn it on? Thanks.
dgrant3820,
I checked two fuses under the passenger foot well and they looked fine. Any other fuses I should try? Thanks,
Diggs
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The only relevant fuses I see are #4 (10 amp) and #35 (20 amp). You said in your OP that the column worked after you reinstalled the seat until you moved the column all the way in; is that correct? I'm wondering if you pinched a wire...
You seem to have already looked over all of the obvious things...
You seem to have already looked over all of the obvious things...
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Yes, it worked when I reinstalled the seat. I plugged the connectors back in, used the seat forward/backward and the telescoping steering wheel went all the way in when the seat switch was hit. Very confusing... it almost seems like it is stuck. I am going to try and take seat off and check everything under the seat again to check for pinched wire.
On another note, I was able to replace the oil pressure sender without having to take off the intake manifold from instructions from this forum. Feels great and saved $400 + from the dealer.
On another note, I was able to replace the oil pressure sender without having to take off the intake manifold from instructions from this forum. Feels great and saved $400 + from the dealer.
