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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 12:17 PM
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I'm thinking about buying a K & N filter for my '04 auto. Driving mostly highway miles what kind of a gas mileage increase can I expect?

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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Kashinsky
I'm thinking about buying a K & N filter for my '04 auto. Driving mostly highway miles what kind of a gas mileage increase can I expect?

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Would you still buy it if the answer was zero mpg increase? .....just curious.
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Kashinsky
I'm thinking about buying a K & N filter for my '04 auto. Driving mostly highway miles what kind of a gas mileage increase can I expect?

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Don`t know about a Vette, But I got an instant 2 mpg increase in Dodge Ram Cummins. Mostly Fwy driving. Not too worried about mpg. in a Vette.
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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Zero.....I've had K & N filters on vettes for years. Buy a K & N filter because they last for life and not for performance or mpg increase.
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 01:53 PM
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Waste of time-just buy the paper filters-for the same $$$ you can buy a LOT of paper filters.
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 02:01 PM
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I doubt that you'll see an increase in MPG at all.
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Would you still buy it if the answer was zero mpg increase? .....just curious.
Yes.
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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I run K&N in all my cars and have for many years.Maybe a slight increase,but more air is a good thing,PLUS you never have to buy another air filter again.

I'm still running the first one I bought for my 96 Eclipse GST....16 years later & 145K miles is a good return for a $45 filter.

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Wait till "pay it forward" starts, hopefully in the next week or so. I have one that I'm going to offer up. Just cleaned and oiled, but decided to go a different route.
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Has anyone used the Spectre Air filter.....looks like the K&N, reusable, guaranteed for life but half the money?

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The ONLY time a reduced resistance air filter can make any difference is at wide open throttle. Whenever you are at less than 100% throttle you are setting the mainfold pressure with your foot. It doesn't matter if the filter restriction is less, because you are creating more restriction with the throttle plate. If you were to have a more restrictive filter you would open the throttle plate more but the manifold pressure is still the same.

Bottom line is that air filters in spark ignition engines don't effect fuel economy. With a diesel, since there isn't a throttle plate, restriction does effect fuel economy since it effects pumping losses.
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Always thought a clean, good flowing air filter would give better MPG.

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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
Waste of time-just buy the paper filters-for the same $$$ you can buy a LOT of paper filters.
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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
Waste of time-just buy the paper filters-for the same $$$ you can buy a LOT of paper filters.

AC Delco is $20
Wix is $15
K&N is $60

Changed at least once a year depending on driving miles and conditions....
Looks to me that it would pay for itself pretty damn quick. After that it's all savings and probably better filtering as a bonus.

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Originally Posted by C5FORFUN2

AC Delco is $20
Wix is $15
K&N is $60

Changed at least once a year depending on driving miles and conditions....
Looks to me that it would pay for itself pretty damn quick. After that it all savings and probably better filtering as a bonus.
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Originally Posted by Richard Kashinsky
I'm thinking about buying a K & N filter for my '04 auto. Driving mostly highway miles what kind of a gas mileage increase can I expect?

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When I installed a Blackwing filter, I removed my "Green" filter, and now it is cleaned, oiled, and ready to install, but has no home. Let me know if you'd be interested in buying it (only has about 3k miles). Look up Green filters, they are supposed to be better than K&N. I like K&N, and can see that they are very similar, but the Green filter looks to be made a little "cleaner" (for lack of a better word).
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by C5FORFUN2

AC Delco is $20
Wix is $15
K&N is $60

Changed at least once a year depending on driving miles and conditions....
Looks to me that it would pay for itself pretty damn quick. After that it's all savings and probably better filtering as a bonus.
Where's the cleaning/oiling kit #'s? And the PIA it is to clean and re-oil
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Originally Posted by manley845
When I installed a Blackwing filter, I removed my "Green" filter, and now it is cleaned, oiled, and ready to install, but has no home. Let me know if you'd be interested in buying it (only has about 3k miles). Look up Green filters, they are supposed to be better than K&N. I like K&N, and can see that they are very similar, but the Green filter looks to be made a little "cleaner" (for lack of a better word).
If it's the same K&N green filter that fits the Vararam B2, I am interested.
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Don't know where you guys have been, but oiled cloth filters filter MUCH worse than paper filters. They contribute to engine wear! Plus too much oil can affect the MAF sensor.

I would never consider one on any of my cars.
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Don't know where you guys have been, but oiled cloth filters filter MUCH worse than paper filters. They contribute to engine wear! Plus too much oil can affect the MAF sensor.

I would never consider one on any of my cars.
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