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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 09:26 PM
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At what rwhp do you usually need upgraded injectors?
What are stock in a 2000 ls1 vette and what should I go up to and what brand?

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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 10:12 PM
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At what rwhp do you usually need upgraded injectors?
What are stock in a 2000 ls1 vette and what should I go up to and what brand?

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Depends on your duty cycle but most people buy injectors when they do heads/cam swap. You may be able to get away with it with a small cam only job. They would be maxed out.
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 09:42 AM
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Stock 2000 LS1 are rated at 24# at 3 bar. The LS1 actually runs at 4 bar (atmospheres - 4 x 14.7 psi) so you get 28#. They are made by bosch.

When I upgraded - I had to upsize my injectors (per the tuner). He also said - it's not a problem to overshoot the sizing by a bit. So if you only need 32, you can buy something like a 42 withouth a problem. Waaay oversized has some issues with pooling and spray pattern from what I've heard. I bought 36# injectors (image below) which would actually flow around 42 from what I was told. I'm at 412 rwhp.

I found a set rebuilt - which simply consists of taking it apart and cleaning the basket and shooting a little carb cleaner through them. They were flow tested to within 2%.

They're one of the most reliable parts of the car.
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Originally Posted by Lifted07Sierra
At what rwhp do you usually need upgraded injectors?
What are stock in a 2000 ls1 vette and what should I go up to and what brand?

Thanks

Here is the math..

HP x BSFC / Number of Injectors x Duty Cycle

example

HP = 350
BSFC = .5 (normally aspirated)
Injectors =8
Duty Cycle = .80 (80%)

350 x .5 = 175
8 x .80 = 6.4

175 / 6.4 = 27.34 lb hr
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by C_Williams@RPM
Here is the math..

HP x BSFC / Number of Injectors x Duty Cycle

example

HP = 350
BSFC = .5 (normally aspirated)
Injectors =8
Duty Cycle = .80 (80%)

350 x .5 = 175
8 x .80 = 6.4

175 / 6.4 = 27.34 lb hr
So going in reverse it looks like a 36lb injector will be plenty for me.
I guess if I can find a 36 or 42lb thatll be ok?

Any brands to stay away from? Or ones to try and get?
I have no clue about injectors
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Originally Posted by Lifted07Sierra
So going in reverse it looks like a 36lb injector will be plenty for me.
I guess if I can find a 36 or 42lb thatll be ok?

Any brands to stay away from? Or ones to try and get?
I have no clue about injectors
Many reputable companies sell injectors including FIC & IDC

Yes, 36 lb hr will be good


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IDC LINK
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by C_Williams@RPM
Many reputable companies sell injectors including FIC & IDC

Yes, 36 lb hr will be good


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$400 for injectors? I know Ive seen GM ones for $199 but can't remember how many lbs they were or if they were even for LS1s, not sure if injectors are engine specific though?
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Originally Posted by Lifted07Sierra
$400 for injectors? I know Ive seen GM ones for $199 but can't remember how many lbs they were or if they were even for LS1s, not sure if injectors are engine specific though?
Of course the price varies and there are many good choices as well as bad - look for SVO RED TOPs - seen them for 125-150 a set -
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Originally Posted by Lifted07Sierra
$400 for injectors? I know Ive seen GM ones for $199 but can't remember how many lbs they were or if they were even for LS1s, not sure if injectors are engine specific though?
new injectors are expensive. Mostly because there's 8 of them. You're looking for the high impedance versions. That's why I bought used.

FWIW: My tuner turned me away from the ford SVO injectors. More likely than anything else - he didn't know how to tune them. So a consideration is what your tuner is familiar with - because he's the guy who has to make them work.
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My car makes 430rwhp on stock injectors with no duty cycle problems

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I've a set of Red Top SVO's if you are interested. If you are HPT capable I can supply the correct data as well.

These worked nicely with my 346 H/C/I. I have ID 1000's now.
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