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Old Mar 12, 2012 | 12:11 AM
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The car: it won't start -- acts like a completely dead battery, though the battery is fine and fully charged (you get the clunk, but no crank)

I have an electronic version of the GM manual, and the database has crashed (eSI) so I can't print the troubleshooting procedure. Can anyone post them for me?

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It is on my other computer. I will check.

How are the connections at the battery? Are they clean and tight?

How are the connection at the starter? Grounds?
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If there is a clunk and it won't start, use a mallet on the solenoid and see if that fixes it otherwise you might want to pull the plugs just to insure there's no coolant in the cylinders and obviously something serious there. Most likely its just the solenoid.
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Originally Posted by TurboBerserker
The car: it won't start -- acts like a completely dead battery, though the battery is fine and fully charged (you get the clunk, but no crank)

I have an electronic version of the GM manual, and the database has crashed (eSI) so I can't print the troubleshooting procedure. Can anyone post them for me?
There is a ton of troubleshooting, schematics, etc....if you search this forum.
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Originally Posted by dgrant3830
If there is a clunk and it won't start, use a mallet on the solenoid and see if that fixes it otherwise you might want to pull the plugs just to insure there's no coolant in the cylinders and obviously something serious there. Most likely its just the solenoid.
That was my first though. Starter / solenoid
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I have LT headers, and limited mobility. I'd rather run the troubleshooting sheet before pulling the header to check the starter.
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
There is a ton of troubleshooting, schematics, etc....if you search this forum.
That is the first thing I did. No luck finding the 'no start' troubleshooter.
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Originally Posted by TurboBerserker
That is the first thing I did. No luck finding the 'no start' troubleshooter.
Strange. If I had a dollar for every "no start" thread I replied to/in....I could retire.

Hope you get it figured out.
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
Strange. If I had a dollar for every "no start" thread I replied to/in....I could retire.

Hope you get it figured out.
I am after a specific thing from the eSI manuals, not 84,000 random threads about people's cars not starting (which I stated in my post -- makes me wonder about how many replies could be avoided with better reading skills). I waded through a bunch of those threads, none of them have the factory manual troubleshooter in it...

You should know that since you have replied to so many of them.

Oh, but thanks for your "help."
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Originally Posted by TurboBerserker

You should know that since you have replied to so many of them.
Yep, I do know that. I also know, that those threads contain the starting schematic, which would have probably helped you isolate your issue by now. All you need is a meter, and you could have already identified the issue. You also have not mentioned if you have any codes, security light, etc. If it's not reading the key, it will never start.
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It always makes me shake my head when some asshat posts that he knows where you can find the answer you're seeking, but he won't post a link.
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Originally Posted by doje
It always makes me shake my head when some asshat posts that he knows where you can find the answer you're seeking, but he won't post a link.
Teach a man to search and he can help himself.

I put "C5 Corvette no start" into Bing and look what I got RIGHT AT THE TOP!
http://www.c5help.com/c5_no_start.htm

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Originally Posted by dougbfresh
Teach a man to search and he can help himself.

I put "C5 Corvette no start" into Bing and look what I got RIGHT AT THE TOP!
http://www.c5help.com/c5_no_start.htm
That, however, is not what I'm looking for and I saw that before posting here. Thank you for posting a link, however.

I want the one from GM.

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Originally Posted by lucky131969
Yep, I do know that. I also know, that those threads contain the starting schematic, which would have probably helped you isolate your issue by now. All you need is a meter, and you could have already identified the issue. You also have not mentioned if you have any codes, security light, etc. If it's not reading the key, it will never start.
Maybe, just maybe, I know what I need. Maybe, I've already done some diagnostics. Maybe, the troubleshooter that I can longer pull up on my computer has what I need in it. Maybe, since you like to post that schematic, and that schematic comes from eSI, you could be helpful and post what I asked for without worrying whether its what you think I need.

If you had posted what I asked for, I guarantee I'd have had what I needed by now.

But, like I said before, thanks for your "help."
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Let me make this simple:

1) I don't need help searching
2) If you don't have eSI, you don't need to waste your time here
3) If you do have eSI, but don't want to help, you don't need to waste your time here

Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by TurboBerserker
That, however, is not what I'm looking for and I saw that before posting here. Thank you for posting a link, however.

I want the one from GM.
Did you see the GM schematic at the bottom of that link?
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I do have the GM disc but the no start link I gave you is much better in my opinion. I also have the paper manual for an 01'. Again the link I think is far superior.
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Never mind -- I was finally able to manually repack and remount SIen database in eSI.

I have what I needed.
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Originally Posted by TurboBerserker
Maybe, just maybe, I know what I need. Maybe, I've already done some diagnostics. Maybe, the troubleshooter that I can longer pull up on my computer has what I need in it. Maybe, since you like to post that schematic, and that schematic comes from eSI, you could be helpful and post what I asked for without worrying whether its what you think I need.
....and maybe you can take your problem, and stick it where the sun don't shine.

Love always,

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Originally Posted by lucky131969
....and maybe you can take your problem, and stick it where the sun don't shine.

Love always,

Lucky
I did a search for where the sun don't shine and couldn't find it. Maybe you have a schematic for that?

Gotta love how helpful and informative you have been here. If only there was some kind on international award for ignorant arrogance.

And, finally, thanks for your "help" yet again. Where would I be without you?

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