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After CLB, another dreaded service column and pull key problem...solution with relay?

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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 10:54 PM
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Well,
I finally got the stupid pull key and service column messages and fuel cutoff at 2 mph.
Pulling Key and waiting does nothing to fix the situation of course.


I have a 6spd manual 2000.

However, steering has never locked, nor do I hear any kind of actuator.

Went through and cleared all the codes on the dash.
Put in my ODBII scanner, no codes.

Battery several years old, but reading at 13.8 V on dash without engine on.

Pulled the knee board and I don't see a K harness.

So I bought and plugged in a CLB, pulled fuses 25 and 29 waited a minute, still getting the pull key and service column warnings.

Clean ignition and keys with carb cleaner, switched key, pulled 25 and 29 again, still getting both warnings.

I checked the relays near the BCM.

The one on the right has a huge purple wire on it, but no orange. O have read that if there is purple there, it has been added by the dealer as part of the recall.

The one on the left has the two orange wires and a white wire.
I have read to jump the orange and white 30 and 87, but the relay on the right has no orange wires.
I tried jumping the left relays anyways, # 30 and 87 orange and white but it did not fix anything.

I pulled fuse #9 along with 25 and 29, and swapped the relays since they look to be the same, having both 87 and 30 marked pins.

Now the problem is fixed....so far!
Have had 3 good start ups since....

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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 02:36 PM
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If you have an old battery check the voltage with the cables disconnected, it should read 12.5V or higher, if not it will happen again at the worst of all possible times. This means it is time to replace the battery. Even with the CLB installed the PCM can cause the dreaded start and shut off cycle. If you now someone with EFILive they can turn off the PCM setting-when I last checked HPTuners did not have this option.
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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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Thanks guys for the suggestions, it's definitely one of the relays near the BCM. I swapped them back and the service column and pull key comes on. Swap them and it goes away.

Guess the BCL will be prophylaxis for any probs that might develop in the future, though it never locked on me.

Anyways, time to price a relay from Chevy.
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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 8VETTE7

Or better yet do a search on the LMC5 and put the money toward it. It eliminates all the CL crap including the relay that has failed. If you were to take the relay cover off it will look like this:
I like the way you put that.....I agree.
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Old Apr 7, 2012 | 07:26 AM
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LMC5. Richard stands behind his products. Got a call back on a Sunday afternoon, can't ask for more than that.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 03:00 PM
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I just recently took mine to the stealer to fix the issue and they swapped in a new relay and then told me it was covered by Chevrolet....so car is fixed at no cost...just a suggestion.
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