C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Air pump running?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 15, 2012 | 06:43 PM
  #1  
legalins's Avatar
legalins
Thread Starter
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 239
Likes: 10
From: Uxbridge Ontario
Default Air pump running?

I had the Vararam installed on my car then had it Dyno/road tuned. 2 days after when pulling into my garage I noticed my air pump was running? I thought this was only suppose to come on for a few minutes after start up. I went out a couple of hours after to start the car and the air pump did what it was suppose to and shut off after a few minutes. Any explanation why it would have been running after I had it out for a drive? Could it be reading the exhaust is to rich? I ahve no idea. This never happened before the Vararam and tuning.
It did not throw any codes either.

Thanks,
Rob

Last edited by legalins; May 15, 2012 at 06:46 PM.
Reply
Old May 16, 2012 | 12:46 AM
  #2  
baxsom's Avatar
baxsom
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,284
Likes: 235
From: Rockledge FL
Default

take it out.
Reply
Old May 16, 2012 | 01:28 AM
  #3  
Quicksilver Vert 01's Avatar
Quicksilver Vert 01
Tech Contributor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 17
From: Somers, CT and Clermont, FL
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Originally Posted by legalins
I had the Vararam installed on my car then had it Dyno/road tuned. 2 days after when pulling into my garage I noticed my air pump was running?
How did you determine that the air pump was actually running?
Reply
Old May 16, 2012 | 01:38 AM
  #4  
Lothar34's Avatar
Lothar34
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,482
Likes: 2
From: Pearland, TX
Default

Maybe the relay is stuck or maybe one of the wires got pinched and it's shorting to ground and staying powered on.
Reply
Old May 16, 2012 | 12:38 PM
  #5  
legalins's Avatar
legalins
Thread Starter
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 239
Likes: 10
From: Uxbridge Ontario
Default

****, now I think it might have been the cooling fans. Will the Vararam make the cooling fans come on more often? It wasn't a hot day and the car was getting lots of air before i pulled into the garage.
Reply
Old May 16, 2012 | 08:19 PM
  #6  
Quicksilver Vert 01's Avatar
Quicksilver Vert 01
Tech Contributor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 17
From: Somers, CT and Clermont, FL
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Originally Posted by legalins
****, now I think it might have been the cooling fans. Will the Vararam make the cooling fans come on more often? It wasn't a hot day and the car was getting lots of air before i pulled into the garage.
That's exactly what I was thinking too.....cooling fans!

You would be much less likely to hear the air pump running. It's fairly quiet, and should only be running for a short period after a cold start-up.
Reply
Old May 16, 2012 | 08:24 PM
  #7  
lucky131969's Avatar
lucky131969
Tech Contributor
15 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,417
Likes: 1,145
From: Dyer, IN
Default

Originally Posted by Quicksilver Vert 01
.....and should only be running for a short period after a cold start-up.
Unless it fails the test routine, then it will run during normal driving....not just at start up.
Reply
Old May 16, 2012 | 08:30 PM
  #8  
Quicksilver Vert 01's Avatar
Quicksilver Vert 01
Tech Contributor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 17
From: Somers, CT and Clermont, FL
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Originally Posted by lucky131969
Unless it fails the test routine, then it will run during normal driving....not just at start up.
Very true, but the MIL should be illuminated after the second test routine failure. He didn't mention any codes being present.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
Old May 16, 2012 | 09:06 PM
  #9  
lucky131969's Avatar
lucky131969
Tech Contributor
15 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,417
Likes: 1,145
From: Dyer, IN
Default

Originally Posted by Quicksilver Vert 01
Very true, but the MIL should be illuminated after the second test routine failure. He didn't mention any codes being present.
....provided his tuner did not set to not report..
Reply
Old May 16, 2012 | 09:23 PM
  #10  
lionelhutz's Avatar
lionelhutz
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 11,150
Likes: 890
From: South Western Ontario
Default

Mine cycles on at various times at idle yet it passes the tests and doesn't throw any codes. No pump codes are disabled either. A bunch of people on this forum will say this can't happen and something must wrong yet they have no input on what it could be or how to test it.
Reply
Old May 17, 2012 | 11:18 AM
  #11  
Quicksilver Vert 01's Avatar
Quicksilver Vert 01
Tech Contributor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 17
From: Somers, CT and Clermont, FL
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Mine cycles on at various times at idle yet it passes the tests and doesn't throw any codes. No pump codes are disabled either. A bunch of people on this forum will say this can't happen and something must wrong yet they have no input on what it could be or how to test it.
Using a scan tool, that can display real-time operational data, is the best way to test or diagnose problems in the AIR system.

The PCM monitors the pre-cat O2 sensor voltages in order to diagnose the AIR system.

A DTC will be set if: The AIR pump turns ON during closed loop operation and the O2 sensor voltage does not fall below 222 mV for 1.3 seconds.

Or

If the AIR pump turns ON during closed loop operation and the short-term fuel trim does not change more than a predetermined amount.
Reply
Old May 17, 2012 | 12:29 PM
  #12  
lionelhutz's Avatar
lionelhutz
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 11,150
Likes: 890
From: South Western Ontario
Default

A scan tool - HPTuners for example? Everything looks fine, yet it still often cycles at idle and not just after a cold start.

At the end of the day, it's really not something I can be bothered to worry about any further.
Reply
Old May 17, 2012 | 08:10 PM
  #13  
Quicksilver Vert 01's Avatar
Quicksilver Vert 01
Tech Contributor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 17
From: Somers, CT and Clermont, FL
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Everything looks fine, yet it still often cycles at idle and not just after a cold start.

At the end of the day, it's really not something I can be bothered to worry about any further.
My AIR pump never runs after the initial start-up cycle is complete. I would be somewhat concerned if it cycled on and off after that period.
Reply
Old May 17, 2012 | 09:08 PM
  #14  
lionelhutz's Avatar
lionelhutz
Race Director
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 11,150
Likes: 890
From: South Western Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by Quicksilver Vert 01
My AIR pump never runs after the initial start-up cycle is complete. I would be somewhat concerned if it cycled on and off after that period.
It passes the tests and no codes. The computer is commanding it on. So, how would I fix it when nothing seems to be broken?
Reply
Old May 18, 2012 | 08:49 AM
  #15  
Quicksilver Vert 01's Avatar
Quicksilver Vert 01
Tech Contributor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 17
From: Somers, CT and Clermont, FL
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Originally Posted by lionelhutz
It passes the tests and no codes. The computer is commanding it on. So, how would I fix it when nothing seems to be broken?
It may be just on the threshold of an off-spec operational parameter, where the PCM commands it on for another test.

Are you running a modified tune, or a stock tune?
Reply
Old May 24, 2012 | 08:14 AM
  #16  
Quicksilver Vert 01's Avatar
Quicksilver Vert 01
Tech Contributor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,100
Likes: 17
From: Somers, CT and Clermont, FL
St. Jude Donor '09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Default

Originally Posted by legalins
****, now I think it might have been the cooling fans. Will the Vararam make the cooling fans come on more often? It wasn't a hot day and the car was getting lots of air before i pulled into the garage.
Have you confirmed that it was the cooling fans, and not the AIR system pump as you first thought?
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Air pump running?





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:36 AM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE