I saw this kick buttt looking car up @ SpeedWorks the other day - and thought I would share some photos with you guys, as I recall reading a posting a while back - and many of you Vert owners were looking/wanting a "real solution"..

Well, I could have easily missed the re-post if you guys finaly found a vendor or fabricator - but I thought I would post these anyways.. :D

Best Regards,

Click here for more - http://66.247.50.130/myvette/Vert_Rollbar_Pics/





[Modified by bparker, 3:35 AM 5/27/2002]

 

For me they look a bit too thin.

Frederik

 

I agree, it looks a little thin to me also and it is not NHRA legal. I don't know about the SCCA or other sanctioning bodies.

Looks cool.


[Modified by Arnie's C5, 7:20 AM 5/27/2002]

 

Just wondering, with the bars so high above the seats, can the top be raised into place?
Toby

 

Yes, the top still works. :yesnod:

JC

 

So you like fat pipes eh? :lol:

No really, after seeing this Vert, I dont think the car would look right wout out the rollbars... Just IMO.

 

By the way- you can't really tell from the pics, but that 'vert is tubbed and has some massive 335s shoved in there! :eek: :cool:

JC

 

Check this site for more ...
http://www.caravaggiocorvettes.com/next.htm
:cheers:

 

Too high & not functional. I am still trying to find something that looks good & is legal for the track.

 

:confused: :rolleyes: :confused: :rolleyes:

 

Those are for show only!

 

So lets get this clear - this was just a post FYI

I am surprised at the negative remarks I have read from some of you (no I am not just picking on you AL).. Especially when you dont know the facts about the fabricator - NOR - what this persons intentions are..

I dont know if they are for show only and to my understanding (which I can/could be wrong) - the vert cages are custom applications done for each car with INTENT in mind in the design..

Joe - maybe you can step in and help us out here about "being legal" and or if Vert Cages CAN even be legal.?.?




[Modified by bparker, 11:28 PM 5/27/2002]

 

Legal? Me thinks not. Based on the discussions that I have had with NHRA tech inspectors, there is no legal application that can be fabricated for the C5 roadster for a person of average height, without destroying your car. Period.



The way I understand it:

Rear supports must make contact with cross member no more than 5" from top. There is no cross member on these HOOPS! This means that you must lose the toneau.

Cross member must be three inches above drivers helmet. This means that you must lose the top. I'm 6' tall and my helmet touches the bottom liner of my top.

Cross member must extend to drivers shoulder.

Front and rear supports must be welded to metal frame. I've heard that some bolting applications are acceptable based on the gauge of the plates used for the attachments.

Front support must pass driver between shoulder and hip.

Bottom line, if you want a legal roll bar in a vert, be prepared to destroy your car. :yesnod:

I challenge anyone to tell me of a rollbar on a vert that defies this conclusion. I hope to learn that I am wrong because I can't participate in many events without the roll bar and I'm not about to donate money to some fabricator just to find out that what they did is worthless.

Also remember that a rollbar is not something that gets you into events ... it's something that is designed to save your life. Why cheat?

If you want answers from the guys that write the rules, check here:

http://www.nhra.com/tracks/dd.htm

Jim


[Modified by EvilDeed, 3:32 AM 5/28/2002]

 

One of the things I enjoy about car forums is getting honest feedback about anything related to the car. I think it is good for all of us to exchange ideas, both positive & negative. Since appearance mods are very subjective, I would expect a variety of responses.

 

I understand the discussion about NHRA legal and all that, BUT, if that speedworks bar will support the weight of the car in a roll over wouldn't that be better than no roll bar at all? I've been looking for a roll bar for a while now and have talked to speedworks several times. They are in the process of finishing up a single hoop bar for a convert that the CLAIM is NHRA legal. I agree it can't be done, but some protection is better than none. As I leave street racing and move to the drag strip something has to be better than nothing.

 

Brent, I believe that comment was aimed at the Caravaggio bars mentioned in the previous post. Those hoops are indeed cosmetic and offer NO protection.

The problem I have with this statement is that just because a roll bar does not meet NHRA rules doesn't make it useless. See next quote.

:yesnod:

1. SpeedWORKS' bars are indeed custom.
2. If you want your top to still work without seriously cutting up the car, ya ain't getting an NHRA bar.
3. The single hoop bar in progress at SpeedWORKS is mine! IT IS NOT NHRA LEGAL! However, it is a 7-point, single hoop bar that will protect me in a roll over (my main consideration ;) ) and it will be SCCA Solo 2 legal and will get me onto open track day events (but not wheel-to-wheel road racing) and will most likely get me through tech at most drag strips. This meets my requirements, so I'm happy. :D

I should get my car back tomorrow or Thursday and will post project pics then.

JC

 

Thanks for clearing things up Joe :D

I dont know much at all about the Vert Rollbars/Cages and now feel I was better off by not presenting this info with the limited knowlege I had.. :lol: As when you are the least educated on the matter - you can make yourself look real silly very quickly.. (as I did).

:conehead

 

(The One): Please post pix of your car when done. I will be ordering one of these bars from SpeedWorks and am just waiting for yours to be finished so I can see how it looks. I have a local fabricator here in Calif who is willing to put it in and back up his work. Thanx

 

There is where you are wrong. Most drag strips are ruled under NHRA, they set the rules for a reason, your safety. If your serious about drag racing get the proper safety equipment. I look at a roll bar in a vette like that as we would a fart pipe on an import.

It's your heard, sorry.

 

mackeyred96 - Respectfully, since there are no NHRA legal bars for verts, what is your solution? :confused:

JC