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Old Aug 30, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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Ok, so I have a 2000 corvette, and about 3 weeks ago I started the car and it just died, (sputted to a stop) started it again and it ran fine.. ran a few days with no problems.

Then it did the same thing, so I started it and it reved up then died, it did this several times and finally stayed running.

It did this a few times untill recently and now just wont run....

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I noticed that the main fuel pump was not turning on when I put the key in ON position so I tried swapping the relay, this fixed it for about a mile then died while running. then wouldn't start....

I then replaced the fuel pump thinking it was that, it ran fine for 5 mins then died again... wont start. it is very intermittent, and the fuel pump wont turn on. (cannot heat r it when the hey is in on position)

What the hell else could it be, this is really bothering me. please help
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You need to put a fuel pressure gauge on it to see what happening to the pressure when it starts to cut out. Sounds ike something in the circuit is getting hot. Change one variable at a time. Take your time to find out the root of the problem. Throwing parts at it gets expensive.
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I have a permenent gauge on it. It just drops to zero. And only starts up for a second just to doe again I am assuming because it builds a tiny bit of pressure from the secondary pump in the passenger tank by sending fuel to the drivers side. What else can it be?
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Check for 12v at the pump when it shuts off. If you dont then start tracing back from there. Grab yourself a wiring diagram for the fuel system.
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Anyone else ever have this problem?
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Ok, so I have a 2000 corvette, and about 3 weeks ago I started the car and it just died, (sputted to a stop) started it again and it ran fine.. ran a few days with no problems.

Then it did the same thing, so I started it and it reved up then died, it did this several times and finally stayed running.

It did this a few times untill recently and now just wont run....

(diagnosis)

I noticed that the main fuel pump was not turning on when I put the key in ON position so I tried swapping the relay, this fixed it for about a mile then died while running. then wouldn't start....

I then replaced the fuel pump thinking it was that, it ran fine for 5 mins then died again... wont start. it is very intermittent, and the fuel pump wont turn on. (cannot heat r it when the hey is in on position)

What the hell else could it be, this is really bothering me. please help
Wow, changed a fuel pump, without any voltage/ground measurements? .....or have you just not published that info?
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Just follow the post.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1574199890-post2.html
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Wow, changed a fuel pump, without any voltage/ground measurements? .....or have you just not published that info?
I had one cheap and it only took an hour so I gave it a shot, didn't fix it apparently . I can see if there is 12v going to pump but how do I take a ground measurement could bad engine ground cause this? Is this a known problem. Thanks in advance car is still sitting any help is rea
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I had one cheap and it only took an hour so I gave it a shot, didn't fix it apparently . I can see if there is 12v going to pump but how do I take a ground measurement could bad engine ground cause this? Is this a known problem. Thanks in advance car is still sitting any help is rea
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Did you even attempt anything from the link in post #7? At least try the jumper to see if it will run......
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Did you even attempt anything from the link in post #7? At least try the jumper to see if it will run......
I just got the message today, have been busy with work. I will attempt tomorrow, if it does fix it then what is the issue? I have swapped the relay out a few times with 3 different ones, hard to think there all bad.

Also when you ground those pins just run wire to neg side of battery? And what do I use for the 12v supply.
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I just got the message today, have been busy with work. I will attempt tomorrow, if it does fix it then what is the issue? I have swapped the relay out a few times with 3 different ones, hard to think there all bad.

Also when you ground those pins just run wire to neg side of battery? And what do I use for the 12v supply.
Ground those pins? You are not "grounding" anything. What I have outlined, involves specific voltage checks, and a check for a good ground at the relay socket. You have to use a meter for both checks. The quickest way to verify the wiring is good from the fusebox back to the pump, is installing a jumper in the relay socket, which will cause the pump to run continuously (key on). Not sure what else I can do here. I provided the direction, a picture (labeled), and a schematic.
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Ground those pins? You are not "grounding" anything. What I have outlined, involves specific voltage checks, and a check for a good ground at the relay socket. You have to use a meter for both checks. The quickest way to verify the wiring is good from the fusebox back to the pump, is installing a jumper in the relay socket, which will cause the pump to run continuously (key on). Not sure what else I can do here. I provided the direction, a picture (labeled), and a schematic.
I misunderstood . " There should be a good ground on 85, and 12 volts is supplied by the PCM at 86 when the ignition is turned on. "

Thought you meant put a ground and 12v to those pins, didn't make sense but much doesn't for electronics and im not electrical savy obviously...what will a good ground read?

So if I do get 12v and a good ground than what? Is it the relay and or pump?
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...what will a good ground read? ?
0 to .3 ohms


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So if I do get 12v and a good ground than what? Is it the relay and or pump?
Here's the way it works. I take the time to outline the troubleshooting steps. You perform the steps, and report the findings, then we move on. It sounds like you are in a rush to get to the last chapter, without reading the book.

I'll let someone else take it from here.

Good luck.
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Ok well, hopefully someone will help, I did the jumper in the relay and it worked pump turned on, So i figgured it was the relay, I just replaced it and it still wont engage the pump when key is in on pos. Ideas?
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 11:32 AM
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Also checked pin 86 by putting a volt meter and with the wires (pos red) onto the 86 pin, and (neg black) onto the ground of the battery it read 12.5 volts, how do I check the ohms of the 85 pin? or did I check this wrong.
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